Topic: Electric Super Charger

[dnice58]

hey yall just came across a web ad for electric super chargers has anybody had any experience with these. Seems like it might not be a bad invest for the bucks, the traditional SC's are fairly pricey. I know that with elec. SC's you wouldn't be able to make as much HPs, but I'm not really looking to go all out racing just add some additional HPs. The one I saw was $199.00 and I wouls have to add installation etc. price.Do yall think its a good investment. Any pro or con insights would be helpful.BTW yall know CAC and its members are going to put me in the poor house.

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[oHIobellboy]

Got a link to this?  Sounds like it needs researched some. I don't recall hearing about them before.

[WB]

Hmmmm.....

Sounds to me like you just described the need for a programmer ...like a predator or something. 

Guys will most likely be down on the "electric supercharger".   

Just 

WB

[dnice58]

Performance chip tuning was the one that I saw, not sure hoe to put the actual link to it.

[WB]

Well.....I'm a little prejudiced on the subject since I'm using the predator.   

I think you would benefit more from a tool to allow you to optimize your tuning than just using a chip or canned tune. 

Just my opinion mind you.  Don't take insult with it.   

WB

[dnice58]

none taken, was just exploring possibilities of inexspensive hp gains .I look at traditional SCs and they are pricing out from about 5K on up. Little to rich for me.

[dnice58]

has anybody done business with Engine Performance Chips? They're advertising an elec. SC for $225.00 it looks like an integrated unit CAI,fan. any comments welcomed.

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[MyBigToy]

I've got no experience with them but I can guarantee you that what you are talking about is JUNK. There is no way you could reasonably expect to get any horsepower gains with an electric supercharger for a price of $225.

Save yourself some money (it's currently at $24.95) as I suspect, from your description, you are talking about something like this fleaBay ad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Electric-Intake-Supercharger-Turbo-All-Vehicles-mpg-HP-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ada490425QQitemZ390209274917QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Don't just run away, RUN AWAY SCREAMING. 

[oHIobellboy]

I've got no experience with them but I can guarantee you that what you are talking about is JUNK. There is no way you could reasonably expect to get any horsepower gains with an electric supercharger for a price of $225.

Save yourself some money (it's currently at $24.95) as I suspect, from your description, you are talking about something like this fleaBay ad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Electric-Intake-Supercharger-Turbo-All-Vehicles-mpg-HP-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ada490425QQitemZ390209274917QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Don't just run away, RUN AWAY SCREAMING.  

aww cmon MBT. I took a quick look from my phone.   look at the dyno sheet in the ad. It says "pooper charged".
Must really mean it's a POS!  

[bluedevil]

David,   all that is a hair dryer without the heat element.   Let the ricers waste the money on it.

You wont be happy with it.

oh and stay away from such items like the module attached to the CAI that they claim it will make your vehicle gain HP.   All that is a simple resistor that lies to the MAF.

[Alaska_AV]

I think you would be better of running a 2 inch hose to your air conditioning duct work . same pressure but super cooled air......

I love the fact that fan isn't even variable speed... at 1000 rpm  the engine should be able to out suck the fan

[oHIobellboy]

I think you would be better of running a 2 inch hose to your air conditioning duct work . same pressure but super cooled air......

I love the fact that fan isn't even variable speed... at 1000 rpm  the engine should be able to out suck the fan

So you're gonna do this when?

[Alaska_AV]

never.....

My AC hasn't worked ever since my warranty was up

[Main One]

The supercharger has to be making pressure in your intake, while at the same time the engine is sucking out cubic feet of air every second.  So this electric blower has to be moving say about 10 cubic feet of air every second, and not just moving it, but also make positive pressure.

Superchargers put a load on an engine.  They more than make up for the power they draw, but they do draw a significant amount of power.  (I've read somewhere if I remember correctly that a top fuel dragster's supercharger draws 700 hp.)  So say if the top fuel dragster's making about 2000 hp, and you want to make say 500, you are going to be putting a fair amount of power into the supercharger.  Let's be conservative and say about 60 hp.

You can go to an online unit conversion site/tool and see that 60 hp is equivalent to about 45 kW.  Watts equal volts times current.  If we divide 45,000 W by 12 volts, we see that this supercharger would take, assuming equal efficiency compared to a belt driven one, 3,750 Amps.  You are going to need I'd say at least a half-dozen batteries, a bigger alternator most likely, and some series electric cable, for that much current.

This is why the electric superchargers are not what folks on the internet make them out to be.  To do the job requires an amount of power that is not practically delivered by electric power.

[dnice58]

you make some valid point Main One check out Super Power Chargers, are they overstating is this possible.

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[Main One]

I see no where on their site where they indicate flow rates versus pressure.  Look at this Garrett site as to how they represent the performance of one of their turbos:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/GT60/GT6041_731377_1.htm

The Super Power Charger site makes a great deal of rpm, but that is far from the total story.  They also make great claims about how well electric supercharging works versus belt-driven and turbocharging, and note that OEMs supercharge some vehicles.  If electric-driven supercharging works as well as they claim, how come we've never seen it on an OEM vehicle?

I would love for this to be practical, but I'm afraid this is internet snake oil.

[KY_BOB]

I see no where on their site where they indicate flow rates versus pressure.  Look at this Garrett site as to how they represent the performance of one of their turbos:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/GT60/GT6041_731377_1.htm

The Super Power Charger site makes a great deal of rpm, but that is far from the total story.  They also make great claims about how well electric supercharging works versus belt-driven and turbocharging, and note that OEMs supercharge some vehicles.  If electric-driven supercharging works as well as they claim, how come we've never seen it on an OEM vehicle?

I would love for this to be practical, but I'm afraid this is internet snake oil.

Agreed, and not cheap snake oil either!