Author Topic: New member Rick is going to town (Read 4035 times)

oHIobellboy · « **on:** January 28, 2010, 03:37:51 PM »

Hey Rick,
We're seeing the pix on the gallery that your posting of pulling the engine. C'mon man spill the beans on the project you're working on.

bluedevil · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2010, 03:49:00 PM »

Yeah, whats that all about

Enkei · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2010, 04:03:17 PM »

Someone's having some winter time fun......

We wait.....

Rick · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2010, 07:21:55 AM »

pull the engine the. NO its goin back in

factory 8.1 bored .010 over mahle forged pistons, scat H beem rods, balanced crank, Raylar big power heads, raylar 103 cam, 1.7 roller rockers, bee hive valve springs, raylar cool gap intake manifold, EGR delete, no cats, vara ram cold air intake, stainless works, 1"7/8 primary to 3" collectors long tube headers, 3" true dual exhaust, 30" 3 chamber stainless works mufflers, as soon as it is all hooked up I have a corvette shop custom dyno tuning the computer. My goal is to beat my new camaro ss in the 1/4 mile.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2010, 07:42:07 AM »

Pretty lofty goal there for a 6000 lb truck. Good luck with it. And when you want to line it up against the camaro, I'm sure a lot of members here will offer to drive one of the vehicles against ya including myself.

bluedevil · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2010, 07:45:11 AM »

Thats too much fun

Details

MonstaMonsta · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2010, 07:55:50 AM »

HOLYyyyy Smokes Rick You've been busy.... I'm jealous!

Ski Edition · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2010, 07:58:10 AM »

Keep us updated. Very cool!!

Rick · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2010, 10:04:47 AM »

though the avalanche is heavy when I weighed it to move it was 6600 LBS and ran the 1/8 mile in 10.08 bone stock with 230 hp at the wheels and 350 lbs of torque. the camaro weighs in at a lofty 4000+ lbs. With 400 hp the power to weight ratio will be prity close. If I need to I think the engine will hold a nice shot of NOS. I would prefer all engine. not big on power adders.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2010, 05:59:28 PM »

That would be an awesome race to watch.

Rick · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2010, 05:07:11 AM »

got the engine installed and everything hooked up went to fire the engine up and nothing. it turns over but not fast enough to start. I had mike from B & B corvette come over and pull all the info off of the computer to build a custom tune for the upgrades. so I have to wait till he comes back and installs the program. I also found out that my dash has completly took a crap none of the guages work nor does the DIC. The back lights come on and nothing for guages. I did some reserch and there is a work call on alot of trucks and avalanches for the guage display not working. So hopefully the dealership can get me some answers before I do fire up the engine and not know vital info like oil pressure, votage, and temprature. this sucks

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2010, 06:08:17 AM »

Quote from: Rick on February 08, 2010, 05:07:11 AM

got the engine installed and everything hooked up went to fire the engine up and nothing. it turns over but not fast enough to start. I had mike from B & B corvette come over and pull all the info off of the computer to build a custom tune for the upgrades. so I have to wait till he comes back and installs the program. I also found out that my dash has completly took a crap none of the guages work nor does the DIC. The back lights come on and nothing for guages. I did some reserch and there is a work call on alot of trucks and avalanches for the guage display not working. So hopefully the dealership can get me some answers before I do fire up the engine and not know vital info like oil pressure, votage, and temprature. this sucks

Depending on what year yours is ( I didn't look) there have been TSB's on the cluster to replace it. It almost sounds like your ecm is the culprit and not just the tune. That guage cluster is all electrical, a bunch of motors responding to "pulses" sent by the ecm.

OK, now I looked. I don't think the '03's were covered under that. If you need a new cluster (which I don't really think at this point, check all your fuses first, even the ones in the drivers side door panel) there's an ad that comes up here every now and for Digital Dash Solutions. I've dealt with them before and talked to them. Nice prices and great work.

Rick · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2010, 06:20:52 AM »

I pulled all fuses as soon as I saw no guages move. I even went to the fuse box under the hood. mike told me that when he saw the lights for the dash work that the fuse and connections were good. I wll take a look at the digital dash solutions. if the dealership cant do anything about it. thanks for the info

Rick · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2010, 06:31:21 AM »

well I just got my dash back. I sen't it to MR Wizzards in canada it cost less than $200 and I also got a 5 year warranty. Hopefully we will be able to start the beast hear in the next week.

Rick · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2010, 06:59:57 PM »

JUST POSTED A VIDEO ON YOU TUBE OF THE BEAST START UP. type 2500 avalanche exhaust in the search to find it please check it out and let me know what you think. I am still waiting on getting the custom tune. so no questions arise that is moisture in the exhast from the storm the last couple of days.

Ski Edition · « **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2010, 07:25:29 PM »

Quote from: Rick on June 03, 2010, 06:59:57 PM

JUST POSTED A VIDEO ON YOU TUBE OF THE BEAST START UP. type 2500 avalanche exhaust in the search to find it please check it out and let me know what you think. I am still waiting on getting the custom tune. so no questions arise that is moisture in the exhast from the storm the last couple of days.

That sounds badass!!!!!! I got a buck on the AV over the camaro!!

KY_BOB · « **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2010, 07:31:51 PM »

Very interesting project.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2010, 07:39:23 PM »


2500 avalanche dual exhaust

KY_BOB · « **Reply #18 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:03:05 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on June 03, 2010, 07:39:23 PM

2500 avalanche dual exhaust

That thing hits a lick!

Rick · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2010, 08:45:25 PM »

the base line dyno was done with 285-70/17 BF GOODRICH MT it pulled down 230 hp 350 torque. goal with the same size tires just BF GOODRICH KM2 mid tires same size. pull down at least 460-470 hp and over 550 torque at the wheels.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #20 on:** June 03, 2010, 09:36:06 PM »

Quote from: Rick on June 03, 2010, 08:45:25 PM

the base line dyno was done with 285-70/17 BF GOODRICH MT it pulled down 230 hp 350 torque. goal with the same size tires just BF GOODRICH KM2 mid tires same size. pull down at least 460-470 hp and over 550 torque at the wheels.

Impressive. The most I pulled with mine is 472rwhp and 499ft# of torque and that's blown on nitrous.

Main One · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2010, 07:47:45 AM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on June 03, 2010, 09:36:06 PM

Impressive. The most I pulled with mine is 472rwhp and 499ft# of torque and that's blown on nitrous.

Well, he does have nearly 150 more cubic inches of displacement to play with than you do....

dnice58 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2010, 08:00:59 AM »

that's badass, sounds like you have a different cam in it.

Enkei · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2010, 08:52:01 AM »

Congrats.. That Av sounds Sick.......I like it!!!!!

Rick · « **Reply #24 on:** August 23, 2010, 08:47:51 AM »

Well the truck is up and running great. Next I am goin to put about 1000 breakin miles and call mike to do a complete dyno tune. I already put 110 miles from yesterday to today.

stay tuned

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #25 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:14:39 PM »

Quote from: Rick on August 23, 2010, 08:47:51 AM

Well the truck is up and running great. Next I am goin to put about 1000 breakin miles and call mike to do a complete dyno tune. I already put 110 miles from yesterday to today. stay tuned

watching and waiting

Rick · « **Reply #26 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:40:40 AM »

well for those that are wanting an update with the BIG BLOCK BEAST. It is running strong. yesterday my tuner came over and we did some data logging and made some adustments to the long trim fuel, mass air flow tables, and timing.
not this week but some time next week she will be going on the dyno for PE table adjustment and trying to pull down some BIG numbers all motor.

I do have one question. With all the torque this truck has I still can't break the tires loose like I thought it would.
Even with the torque mangement taken off it seems odd to me maybe its just not geared well I don't know. I don't plan on putting a stall in it because of the towing I use the truck for. I do plan on changing the diff gears from 3.73 stock to 4.56 in the near future. any advice or coments welcome thanks

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #27 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:25:45 AM »

Quote from: Rick on October 05, 2010, 06:40:40 AM

well for those that are wanting an update with the BIG BLOCK BEAST. It is running strong. yesterday my tuner came over and we did some data logging and made some adustments to the long trim fuel, mass air flow tables, and timing.
not this week but some time next week she will be going on the dyno for PE table adjustment and trying to pull down some BIG numbers all motor.

I do have one question. With all the torque this truck has I still can't break the tires loose like I thought it would.
Even with the torque mangement taken off it seems odd to me maybe its just not geared well I don't know. I don't plan on putting a stall in it because of the towing I use the truck for. I do plan on changing the diff gears from 3.73 stock to 4.56 in the near future. any advice or coments welcome thanks

I'm pretty sure Ski Edition went from the 3.73 to the 4.56 in his for towing in his 1500. Maybe he will chime in with the results of that swap other than losing fuel mileage.

Main One · « **Reply #28 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:37:44 AM »

Quote from: Rick on October 05, 2010, 06:40:40 AM

well for those that are wanting an update with the BIG BLOCK BEAST. It is running strong. yesterday my tuner came over and we did some data logging and made some adustments to the long trim fuel, mass air flow tables, and timing.
not this week but some time next week she will be going on the dyno for PE table adjustment and trying to pull down some BIG numbers all motor.

I do have one question. With all the torque this truck has I still can't break the tires loose like I thought it would.
Even with the torque mangement taken off it seems odd to me maybe its just not geared well I don't know. I don't plan on putting a stall in it because of the towing I use the truck for. I do plan on changing the diff gears from 3.73 stock to 4.56 in the near future. any advice or coments welcome thanks

I think what will be interesting to hear from Ski Edition about will be what he thinks of his higher stall TC after towing his camper up this way today. I know he wasn't that thrilled with the higher gear rear end putting him in 3rd gear much sooner.

Rick · « **Reply #29 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:49:17 AM »

thanks Ohio and main one how big of tire is SKI running on his truck?
mine are 285-70R17
to get back to factory gear ration I need to go to 4.10 but i was told with the tire size I am at now it would be best to go to 4.56 for towing with this being a big block anything over 10 MPG I am happy with.
right now in town and highway I see 13 mpg. thats at a 1000 miles on the engine rebuild.

Main One · « **Reply #30 on:** October 05, 2010, 11:16:06 AM »

Quote from: Rick on October 05, 2010, 10:49:17 AM

thanks Ohio and main one how big of tire is SKI running on his truck?
mine are 285-70R17
to get back to factory gear ration I need to go to 4.10 but i was told with the tire size I am at now it would be best to go to 4.56 for towing with this being a big block anything over 10 MPG I am happy with.
right now in town and highway I see 13 mpg. thats at a 1000 miles on the engine rebuild.

Are you running a 4L80E tranny?

Rick · « **Reply #31 on:** October 05, 2010, 12:30:44 PM »

yes sir

no mods on the tranny, factory spec

gm 14 bolt full float rear 3.73

I have no clue about the front diff 3.73

Main One · « **Reply #32 on:** October 05, 2010, 04:08:50 PM »

Then you probably wouldn't have the same complaint about the 4.56 gears as Ski Edition would, or at least it wouldn't be as much of an issue for you. The 4L60E in the half-ton trucks has a much wider gear ratio than the 4L80E. He noticed his truck not pulling as hard after hitting 3rd gear due to it dropping below 3000 rpm on the shift, and that was at a fairly low speed with those gears.

Rick · « **Reply #33 on:** October 20, 2010, 07:19:08 AM »

alright the truck is driving great and it is ready for the dyno to finish tuning.
right now I a scheduled to go on friday.

anyone want to take a guess at what kind of numbers she will pull?

my guess is 425 hp and 530 tq at the wheels

like everyone else I hope for more but trying to keep my guess conservative so
if it does't make as much as I would like I won't be as dissapointed. LOL

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #34 on:** October 20, 2010, 07:29:52 AM »

Quote from: Rick on October 20, 2010, 07:19:08 AM

alright the truck is driving great and it is ready for the dyno to finish tuning.
right now I a scheduled to go on friday.

anyone want to take a guess at what kind of numbers she will pull?

my guess is 425 hp and 530 tq at the wheels

like everyone else I hope for more but trying to keep my guess conservative so
if it does't make as much as I would like I won't be as dissapointed. LOL

I'm guessing about 6mpg around town

Can't wait to read the results.

Rick · « **Reply #35 on:** October 20, 2010, 07:37:40 AM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on October 20, 2010, 07:29:52 AM

I'm guessing about 6mpg around town

Can't wait to read the results.

LOL actually it isn't bad at all I get 12 in town which is 3 mpg better than before I built the engine.
as long as I keep off the throttle. and yes it is very hard to do.

Rick · « **Reply #36 on:** October 31, 2010, 08:46:29 AM »


2500 8.1 avalanche dyno

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #37 on:** October 31, 2010, 12:18:02 PM »

So what's the numbers looking like?

Rick · « **Reply #38 on:** November 01, 2010, 02:39:52 PM »

363 hp at the wheels and 449 lbs of torque
a bit disapointed with the hp was expecting at least 400 at the wheels
with raylar claiming 525 at the flywheel. but it is what it is
as far as torque I am very pleased 400 lbs from 3000 rpm all the way up.
I wanted to post the dyno chart but it is more than 600 kb.

Main One · « **Reply #39 on:** November 01, 2010, 02:52:58 PM »

Quote from: Rick on November 01, 2010, 02:39:52 PM

363 hp at the wheels and 449 lbs of torque
a bit disapointed with the hp was expecting at least 400 at the wheels
with raylar claiming 525 at the flywheel. but it is what it is
as far as torque I am very pleased 400 lbs from 3000 rpm all the way up.
I wanted to post the dyno chart but it is more than 600 kb.

How far up is "all the way up"?

HP and foot-pounds should be equal at 5252 rpm.

Rick · « **Reply #40 on:** November 01, 2010, 06:05:10 PM »

here is a link to where I can post the dyno sheet.
let me know what you think

http://performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=471565

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #41 on:** November 01, 2010, 06:50:56 PM »

I copied it from that site. It says it's only 109kb. Maybe they have a built in resizer.

If you want to email me the original I'll try to reduce it down for on here or upload it to my photobucket account and link it here.

Although it's pretty easy to read at this size

Rick · « **Reply #42 on:** November 02, 2010, 06:54:24 AM »

thanks ohio