Author Topic: Sail Panel Leds (Read 10482 times)

oHIobellboy · « **on:** October 10, 2008, 10:13:32 PM »

OK, I've got the LEDs and the holders for this mod and I can't find the wiring for it. I only want them to be running lights so it doesn't take away from my scanning LOF. I can't find the thread for it. Help! Do I need diodes or anything or can I just tap into the tail light wire in the rear lenses?

bluedevil · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2008, 10:24:49 PM »

What do you mean you cant find the wiring for it? You loop the wires thru the holes and then tap into the tail lights.

I dont remember if i used diodes or not

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 11, 2008, 07:03:46 AM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 10, 2008, 10:24:49 PM

What do you mean you cant find the wiring for it? You loop the wires thru the holes and then tap into the tail lights.

I dont remember if i used diodes or not

I meant to say I don't know if I need a diode for just running lights.

Sunburst05 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 11, 2008, 01:19:14 PM »

Used diodes in mine but I have tail and stop light in mine. IMOP do both the stop and tails, they are far enough away from the scanner it will look ok.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2008, 09:38:05 AM »

I only wired ours to be used ith the brake lights. No diodes used. Loosened the saddlebags and ran the wiring under them to the area behind the tail lights, lot sof room back there.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2008, 12:03:59 PM »

Mine are done. I guess I can write up a "How To" thread with pix.

boilers94 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2008, 12:26:34 PM »

Well................where's your write up???

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2008, 01:25:38 PM »

Quote from: boilers94 on October 12, 2008, 12:26:34 PM

Well................where's your write up???

here

Here are the LED's: http://www.oznium.com/prewired-leds

And here are the holders: http://www.oznium.com/led-holder

You want the 5MM ones. And you want the Plastic 5mm Led Holders.

Here's how I put the leds together with the s.p. plug, Don't know if it's right or not but seemed the only way I could get them to fit.

Remove the grab handles and the 4 30mm torx on the sides of the saddlebag. Also remove the 10mm bolt inside the SB so you can lift it up a little.

Remove the plastic screws in the SP

Fish the wires from the LEDs through BOTH holes *NOTE This pix shows the LEDS in the holders the first way I put them into the holders, pix above are current

Make your connections with scotchlocks. The top one will only have 2 wires in each connection.

I used electrical tape on the wires where they cross over metal in the saddlebags to prevent chaffing.

Connections at the tail light for me. Lower bulb, Brown (driver's side) Brown/white (passenger side) are +, Black on both sides are Ground

Viola

These are only tied into the running lights.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #8 on:** October 12, 2008, 01:27:49 PM »

nights pix to come later

boilers94 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2008, 01:32:46 PM »

Looks good!! Can't wait to see some night shots!!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #10 on:** October 12, 2008, 07:02:26 PM »

Another tough night shot.

bluedevil · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2008, 07:13:49 PM »

Finally we have a write up for this.

One question tho'... why didnt you get the flush (flat) LED's?

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2008, 07:34:32 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 12, 2008, 07:13:49 PM

Finally we have a write up for this.

One question tho'... why didnt you get the flush (flat) LED's?

I prolly put them in the holders wrong.

bluedevil · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2008, 07:56:02 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on October 12, 2008, 07:34:32 PM

I prolly put them in the holders wrong.

No....i meant these flush mount led's http://midwestchevyavalancheclub.com/gallery/1_24_11_07_1_18_01.jpg

boilers94 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 12, 2008, 07:59:13 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 12, 2008, 07:13:49 PM

Finally we have a write up for this.

One question tho'... why didnt you get the flush (flat) LED's?

OBB wanted to "stand out"!!!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #15 on:** October 12, 2008, 08:00:57 PM »

These are the ones that Moddess reccommended.

bluedevil · « **Reply #16 on:** October 12, 2008, 08:03:14 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on October 12, 2008, 08:00:57 PM

These are the ones that Moddess reccommended.

Ah ok,.....i wasnt sure if you knew about them.

boilers94 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 12, 2008, 08:12:49 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 12, 2008, 07:56:02 PM

No....i meant these flush mount led's http://midwestchevyavalancheclub.com/gallery/1_24_11_07_1_18_01.jpg

Those are cool too!!!

MoAv · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2008, 06:39:28 AM »

Where are those flush mount leds from? I like the looks of those. Although I'm not sure if they would show as bright as OBB's do...

I like bright

Sunburst05 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:20:56 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on October 13, 2008, 06:39:28 AM

Where are those flush mount leds from? I like the looks of those. Although I'm not sure if they would show as bright as OBB's do...

I like bright

I think Mike (didit) got ours from Radio Shack but you might want to ask him though.

bluedevil · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:45:12 PM »

You can find these at RadioShack for under $2 each. I think all 5mm have the same light output.

I reused the excisting sockets. Just re-drilled them a tad bigger to fit the LED's.

Mine are pretty visible at night.

MoAv · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:50:17 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 13, 2008, 05:45:12 PM

You can find these at RadioShack for under $2 each. I think all 5mm have the same light output.

I reused the excisting sockets. Just re-drilled them a tad bigger to fit the LED's.

Mine are pretty visible at night.

I already have some 5mm (I think?) LED's from Rat Shack - am I understanding you right in that you used the existing rings that the screws/clip things come out of? I thought it was all one piece. That would be great not to have to buy something different - I can use what I have

bluedevil · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:53:34 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on October 13, 2008, 05:50:17 PM

I already have some 5mm (I think?) LED's from Rat Shack - am I understanding you right in that you used the existing rings that the screws/clip things come out of? I thought it was all one piece. That would be great not to have to buy something different - I can use what I have

Yes, unscrew the phillips plastic screws,pitch or save them. Then....pull the sockets out and re- drill just a smidge to fit the led's.

MoAv · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:55:10 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 13, 2008, 05:53:34 PM

Yes, unscrew the phillips plastic screws,pitch or save them. Then....pull the sockets out and re- drill just a smidge to fit the led's.

Thanks Blue!! Appreciate the info

bluedevil · « **Reply #24 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:58:12 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on October 13, 2008, 05:55:10 PM

Thanks Blue!! Appreciate the info

Hang on....im searching the web

bluedevil · « **Reply #25 on:** October 13, 2008, 06:03:20 PM »

These are mine..... you dont need the metal nut & washer......you can ditch them.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062568&cp=&sr=1&kw=red+led+assembly&origkw=red+led+assembly&parentPage=search

@ Radio Shack $1.99ea.

Model: 276-270 5mm
Catalog #: 276-270

What we found using these is......that the second hole from the top on the driver & passenger side,you need to bend the sheet metal so they can set completely flush.

...and for the factory plastic sockets,...use a 5/16" drill bit to resize the hole to fit the LED.

Donnie didnt bend the dheet metal...he has 2 LED's sticking up. Hes been meaning to fix this

MoAv · « **Reply #26 on:** October 13, 2008, 06:04:56 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 13, 2008, 06:03:20 PM

These are mine..... you dont need the metal nut & washer......you can ditch them.

@ Radio Shack $1.99ea.

Model: 276-270 5mm
Catalog #: 276-270

What we found using these is......that the second hole from the top on the driver & passenger side,you need to bend the sheet metal so they can set completely flush.

...and for the factory plastic socket,...use a 5/16" drill bit to resize the hole to fit the LED.

That's great!! Those are the one's I have!!! Whew - I'm getting these done in Ohio and was hoping the lights I got were the right ones. I'll dig up the right size drill bit and be sure to take it along.

bluedevil · « **Reply #27 on:** October 13, 2008, 06:07:04 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on October 13, 2008, 06:04:56 PM

That's great!! Those are the one's I have!!! Whew - I'm getting these done in Ohio and was hoping the lights I got were the right ones. I'll dig up the right size drill bit and be sure to take it along.

Very well.

Sunburst05 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 13, 2008, 08:02:31 PM »

We didnt redrill the sockets just filed down the ribs a little on the light themselves.

bluedevil · « **Reply #29 on:** October 13, 2008, 08:04:54 PM »

Quote from: Sunburst05 on October 13, 2008, 08:02:31 PM

We didnt redrill the sockets just filed down the ribs a little on the light themselves.

Great idea! I never thought of that

Donnie1 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 16, 2008, 04:51:37 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 13, 2008, 06:03:20 PM

These are mine..... you dont need the metal nut & washer......you can ditch them.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062568&cp=&sr=1&kw=red+led+assembly&origkw=red+led+assembly&parentPage=search

@ Radio Shack $1.99ea.

Model: 276-270 5mm
Catalog #: 276-270

What we found using these is......that the second hole from the top on the driver & passenger side,you need to bend the sheet metal so they can set completely flush.

...and for the factory plastic sockets,...use a 5/16" drill bit to resize the hole to fit the LED.

Donnie didnt bend the dheet metal...he has 2 LED's sticking up. Hes been meaning to fix this :winkani:

Hey now let's not be dragging out the past and all those skeetons we have.

Yes I am guilty of this, still.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #31 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:39:38 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on October 12, 2008, 07:13:49 PM

Finally we have a write up for this.

One question tho'... why didnt you get the flush (flat) LED's?

Quote from: oHIobellboy on October 12, 2008, 08:00:57 PM

These are the ones that Moddess reccommended.

After looking at the pix provided by other members I redid my leds and corrected the how to thread.

kklobe · « **Reply #32 on:** April 12, 2009, 11:25:43 PM »

First I must say that this is a great write up....So I finally went to the local Radio Shack and picked up some of the flush mount LED's. There were only four so four are on order. I installed the lights on the right side as brake only. This looks a little odd with only one side lighting up, but I couldn't wait.

Now for the shatty part. After everything was wired up, crimped, taped and put back together....two of the freaking LED's had the lines break off at the base of the LED

. Has anyone had this problem using these LED's. #276-0270? Installation was a snap and I got to enjoy a really nice cigar while working through this. I'll be soldering everything when the other four lights arrive because I had a tough time getting my crimped connections to cooperate.

I'll have everything finished this Thursday and I have already gotten some comments from our friends who saw me tinkering away. I know I should have waited for everything so I could do both sides at the same time, but I have been dying to try out some of the simpler mods. Hopefully, weather permitting I'll be outside working on the "all four" brake light mod and the "all on high" mod.

Thanks to everyone for their write-up's and "how to's" on all of these different mods, this has made everything so much easier. I'm very mechanically inclined, but not electronically.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #33 on:** April 13, 2009, 09:31:21 AM »

Sounds like the mod bug has really bit Kevin. I have not heard of that problem before. Maybe just a defect in the light or something.

Freebie · « **Reply #34 on:** April 13, 2009, 02:21:42 PM »

Quote from: kklobe on April 12, 2009, 11:25:43 PM

First I must say that this is a great write up....So I finally went to the local Radio Shack and picked up some of the flush mount LED's. There were only four so four are on order. I installed the lights on the right side as brake only. This looks a little odd with only one side lighting up, but I couldn't wait.

Now for the shatty part. After everything was wired up, crimped, taped and put back together....two of the freaking LED's had the lines break off at the base of the LED . Has anyone had this problem using these LED's. #276-0270? Installation was a snap and I got to enjoy a really nice cigar while working through this. I'll be soldering everything when the other four lights arrive because I had a tough time getting my crimped connections to cooperate.

I'll have everything finished this Thursday and I have already gotten some comments from our friends who saw me tinkering away. I know I should have waited for everything so I could do both sides at the same time, but I have been dying to try out some of the simpler mods. Hopefully, weather permitting I'll be outside working on the "all four" brake light mod and the "all on high" mod.

Thanks to everyone for their write-up's and "how to's" on all of these different mods, this has made everything so much easier. I'm very mechanically inclined, but not electronically.

That is one of the problems with the radio shack leds. I have installed about 6 sets of em and have probably broken about 8 of the leds. You have to be very careful when putting them in so as to not break the wires off. I have been using different leds for the last couple of Avs I've done, made by pilot and sold at pep boys. Here are a couple pics, the leds fit in nicely, and the best part is they come with about a foot of wire attached so it is a lot easier to feed it through the panels. And as an added bonus, they are quite a bit brighter than the radio shack ones

The last pic is for another style of light made by pilot, if you have an early 02 Av that has screws insead of clips in the panels these work much better, they are license plate bolts, instead of the plain leds that work good on the 03+ models.

RonJ · « **Reply #35 on:** April 13, 2009, 04:22:18 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on October 12, 2008, 01:25:38 PM

Here are the LED's: http://www.oznium.com/prewired-leds

And here are the holders: http://www.oznium.com/led-holder

You want the 5MM ones. And you want the Plastic 5mm Led Holders.

These are what i went with! These were soo easy and OBB's write up was awesome! No searchin for a PepBoys freebie! LOL Order online and they were cheap..I bought two sets of leds and holders....just incase i get an itch to be nice and give a set away at a GTG!

bluedevil · « **Reply #36 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:03:29 PM »

My RadioShack ones,been ON for 3 years

Main One · « **Reply #37 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:34:11 AM »

I've got Autozone license plate "bolts" like pictured above for an 02 AV on my 03, and they have worked just fine for 4 years now and counting, although I replaced a couple right away because straight out of the packaging they weren't as bright as the others.

Fowlhunter · « **Reply #38 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:39:26 AM »

This is a future mod, just don't know if I would have them blink with the turn signals or just come on with the tail lights???

Main One · « **Reply #39 on:** April 14, 2009, 08:50:38 AM »

Quote from: Fowlhunter on April 14, 2009, 07:39:26 AM

This is a future mod, just don't know if I would have them blink with the turn signals or just come on with the tail lights???

I've got mine coming on with the tail lights as night-time running lights. I've seen others hooked up to the tail lights. It can be a tough choice - I decided not to think about it too much and just went one way and haven't worried about it.

maverick1974 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 14, 2009, 09:59:34 AM »

I started putting LEDs in, but I managed to destroy one of my LEDs in the test fitting process. So until I place another order (and get some spares) I will only have 7 working.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #41 on:** April 14, 2009, 04:23:04 PM »

Quote from: Fowlhunter on April 14, 2009, 07:39:26 AM

This is a future mod, just don't know if I would have them blink with the turn signals or just come on with the tail lights???

Mine are running lights only. With the scanning LOF I have I didn't want to take away from the looks of it.

kklobe · « **Reply #42 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:34:49 PM »

Okay, get this....

I FINALLY got the remainder of the LED's from Radio Slack..eerr shack. It took the staff three trips in to the store to find the order I had prepaid for. I get home and the next day was supposed to be sunny and 70ish. I take the top off the bed and get everything ready. I run back upstairs and grab a splendid Punch cigar and light up. I have my solider gun and everything is going in nice and smooth. I am being extra careful because I don't want the leads breaking off of the back of the LED's again. I get everything together and test the brakes. OMG everything is working, so now I put it all back together. The LED's slide right in with just a hint of friction holding them in place. Now I hit the brakes again to show off to the wife and yet ANOTHER LED dies....the leads broke clean off somehow? My daughter couldn't have pushed the lights in any easier then I did.....So now I'm going to replace all of the crummy LED's with a different light. I don't remember the part number but the bulb has a 25,000 hour life, so it should last a couple of years... I'll get some pics when I'm done.
I also installed a line of fire, wish everything was that easy!
Now I just need to get the predator and start tuning. HAHA this should be educational!

bluedevil · « **Reply #43 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:18:52 PM »

Quote from: kklobe on April 28, 2009, 08:34:49 PM

Okay, get this....

I FINALLY got the remainder of the LED's from Radio Slack..eerr shack. It took the staff three trips in to the store to find the order I had prepaid for. I get home and the next day was supposed to be sunny and 70ish. I take the top off the bed and get everything ready. I run back upstairs and grab a splendid Punch cigar and light up. I have my solider gun and everything is going in nice and smooth. I am being extra careful because I don't want the leads breaking off of the back of the LED's again. I get everything together and test the brakes. OMG everything is working, so now I put it all back together. The LED's slide right in with just a hint of friction holding them in place. Now I hit the brakes again to show off to the wife and yet ANOTHER LED dies....the leads broke clean off somehow? My daughter couldn't have pushed the lights in any easier then I did.....So now I'm going to replace all of the crummy LED's with a different light. I don't remember the part number but the bulb has a 25,000 hour life, so it should last a couple of years... I'll get some pics when I'm done.
I also installed a line of fire, wish everything was that easy!
Now I just need to get the predator and start tuning. HAHA this should be educational!

I dont understand why are they breaking. Do they break when pressing them in?

You know? On both sides, the 2nd LED hole from the top,you need to bend the sheet metal to fit the LED. (unless you got ones with short tails).

MS03 2500 · « **Reply #44 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:30:11 PM »

I have radio shack ones on mine, and yep the wire do break off easy. I had 2 spares because I knew I would break some. Your best bet is to attach a 9 volt battery to the main wires while you are installing them so you can tell if they are working. Also radio shack sells a small 12 volt battery that you can use also.

Dr Didit taught me this trick.

farmguy · « **Reply #45 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:13:07 AM »

Forget the Radio Shack crap and get the Oznium pre-wired ones. Saves a bunch of time on the install and they are durable.

http://www.oznium.com/prewired-leds

They already have the resistor soldered in and a decent amount of wire in the leads to work with. I have mine wired to brake and turn only and they worked great first time.

MS03 2500 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 29, 2009, 08:35:29 AM »

Hey when did you get those

I am looking to get some myself.

farmguy · « **Reply #47 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:31:19 AM »

Order direct from oznium.com

They're brighter than the R/S and are completely flush when mounted.

MS03 2500 · « **Reply #48 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:38:00 AM »

I know that was my attempt at a Joke, I'm MichiganSilver03 your SS.

farmguy · « **Reply #49 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:40:37 AM »

Quote from: MS03 on April 29, 2009, 09:38:00 AM

I know that was my attempt at a Joke, I'm MichiganSilver03 your SS.

I should have noticed that, but I don't read abbreviations well.

I owe you for a great mod.

kklobe · « **Reply #50 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:09:15 PM »

Quote

I dont understand why are they breaking. Do they break when pressing them in?

That's the only thing I can imagine. I was super careful with these and I still had leads break off. And yea, both leads came off

. I'll be installing some different lights soon so I'll keep you posted!

bluedevil · « **Reply #51 on:** April 29, 2009, 07:04:53 PM »

Quote from: kklobe on April 29, 2009, 06:09:15 PM

That's the only thing I can imagine. I was super careful with these and I still had leads break off. And yea, both leads came off . I'll be installing some different lights soon so I'll keep you posted!

lol....i still cant picture it. I left my wires loose inside the panels.

ChevyGuyNC · « **Reply #52 on:** April 29, 2009, 07:51:12 PM »

Another emphatic vote for the Oznium over the Radio Shack. There's just no comparison in terms of brightness.

You do have to be careful, even with the Oznium ones. The problem isn't in pushing them in, but rather you don't want to put much pressure on the taped area immediately below the bulb head. The wires coming out of the LED are WAY smaller than the wire gauge and sometimes the tiny solder joints are brittle. When JohnB and I were putting mine in, we snapped one, and had to repair it. What a PITA to solder such a small thing.

Anyway... Moddess found a great addition to these flush mount LED's that for about three bucks instantly makes them brighter and increases the the spread of the light.

Check out the Lens Mount, third item down on this page.

They fit right over the bulb snugly, and provide 180 degrees of light. They honestly almost double the apparent brightness of the LED's. Not bad for $3.

kklobe · « **Reply #53 on:** May 02, 2009, 12:40:14 AM »

Quote

lol....i still cant picture it. I left my wires loose inside the panels.

I'll get ya a pic. When I'm able to get the lights switched out I'll get a pic of my 5.56 annihilating the remainders!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #54 on:** May 02, 2009, 08:14:31 AM »

Quote from: kklobe on May 02, 2009, 12:40:14 AM

I'll get ya a pic. When I'm able to get the lights switched out I'll get a pic of my 5.56 annihilating the remainders!

el cheapo leds <

Sunburst05 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 07, 2009, 12:43:27 AM »

Big thanks to Mike (Didit)for putting in my new Oznium LED sail panel lights today. They are twice as bright as the Radio Shack ones I had in there before.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #56 on:** June 08, 2009, 09:07:34 AM »

I am going to be helping Eric (EWezy01) put his new led's in tomorrow. He got the Oznium as well. After I see them, I will probably be ordering some as well.

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #57 on:** June 09, 2009, 04:49:56 PM »

Installed my Sail Panel LED's today w/ the help of DONNIE1....he hooked it up! they look awesome perfectly flush and very bright. Visible even during the day light!

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #58 on:** June 09, 2009, 04:54:26 PM »

a couple more for ya

Hugz · « **Reply #59 on:** June 09, 2009, 05:21:25 PM »

Looks like these are in my near future..

Getting rid of the 10mm painted RED ones finally..

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #60 on:** June 09, 2009, 05:34:35 PM »

Looks good EWeezy. You guys do nice work

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 09, 2009, 05:47:16 PM »

highly recomend these. The Oznium ones w/ the holders slipped in perfect and flush! and they snapped back in just like the screws were there! very satisfied! cant wait to get dark out side!!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #62 on:** June 09, 2009, 05:54:21 PM »

Quote from: EWeezY01 on June 09, 2009, 05:47:16 PM

highly recomend these. The Oznium ones w/ the holders slipped in perfect and flush! and they snapped back in just like the screws were there! very satisfied! cant wait to get dark out side!!

Heh Heh Heh,,,,,just think though, unless you let someone else drive your avy at night, you won't get to see them that often.

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #63 on:** June 09, 2009, 05:57:10 PM »

I know right its like the best mod i cant see............man some peoples kids!

Donnie1 · « **Reply #64 on:** June 09, 2009, 06:47:06 PM »

I'll definitely be ordering some of these as well. Took us all of about an hour 1/2 and even had to go back and reconnect a ground on one of them. We tapped into the trailer harness at the back and put the ground wires under 2 screws in both corners underneath.

Also a lot easier with 2 sets of hands.

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 09, 2009, 07:21:43 PM »

This is true.

farmguy · « **Reply #66 on:** June 10, 2009, 05:16:06 AM »

Looks good. This is a very cool, easy to do mod.

Fowlhunter · « **Reply #67 on:** June 10, 2009, 12:04:27 PM »

Quote from: ChevyGuyNC on April 29, 2009, 07:51:12 PM

Another emphatic vote for the Oznium over the Radio Shack. There's just no comparison in terms of brightness.

You do have to be careful, even with the Oznium ones. The problem isn't in pushing them in, but rather you don't want to put much pressure on the taped area immediately below the bulb head. The wires coming out of the LED are WAY smaller than the wire gauge and sometimes the tiny solder joints are brittle. When JohnB and I were putting mine in, we snapped one, and had to repair it. What a PITA to solder such a small thing.

Anyway... Moddess found a great addition to these flush mount LED's that for about three bucks instantly makes them brighter and increases the the spread of the light.

Check out the Lens Mount, third item down on this page.

They fit right over the bulb snugly, and provide 180 degrees of light. They honestly almost double the apparent brightness of the LED's. Not bad for $3.

Which Lens Mounts did you go with, the red or the clear?
Thanks

tdybr27 · « **Reply #68 on:** June 10, 2009, 12:44:51 PM »

man, now I've got something else to put on my "can somebody do this mod for me" list.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #69 on:** June 10, 2009, 04:44:50 PM »

Quote from: Fowlhunter on June 10, 2009, 12:04:27 PM

Which Lens Mounts did you go with, the red or the clear?
Thanks

I'll show you mine tomorrow night

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #70 on:** June 10, 2009, 06:04:57 PM »

Quote from: Fowlhunter on June 10, 2009, 12:04:27 PM

Which Lens Mounts did you go with, the red or the clear?
Thanks

Didnt use any lenses...wnated to keep it flush. from my understanding the lenses stick out a bit and so i opted not to use them. Plenty of light reguardless if you use them or not!.

ChevyGuyNC · « **Reply #71 on:** June 10, 2009, 07:11:24 PM »

Quote from: Fowlhunter on June 10, 2009, 12:04:27 PM

Which Lens Mounts did you go with, the red or the clear?
Thanks

The RED ones.... Makes a huge difference.

Sunburst05 · « **Reply #72 on:** June 10, 2009, 09:51:14 PM »

Mine are flush mounted also, which I like cause you don't notice them till you hit your brake or turn on your lights.

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #73 on:** June 10, 2009, 09:54:47 PM »

Plus youll have to watch what you load in the back...if you ever haul big loads something might clip the lenses.....just my

ya i said it ...."big loads"

Donnie1 · « **Reply #74 on:** June 11, 2009, 06:25:35 AM »

Quote from: EWeezY01 on June 10, 2009, 09:54:47 PM

Plus youll have to watch what you load in the back...if you ever haul big loads something might clip the lenses.....just my

ya i said it ...."big loads"

You must be talking about someone else's Av Eric, I don't see anything going in yours. Unless of course you guys have that much luggage when you travel.

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #75 on:** June 11, 2009, 02:51:51 PM »

just ordered mine from oznium and the clear mounts from super bright leds. thanks for all the great info here on a super mod

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #76 on:** June 11, 2009, 04:09:56 PM »

I got a big dog............ummmmm.........

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #77 on:** June 11, 2009, 04:13:28 PM »

Quote from: mEYEscndfvrtluv on June 11, 2009, 02:51:51 PM

just ordered mine from oznium and the clear mounts from super bright leds. thanks for all the great info here on a super mod

I can't believe you don't have these already. Gonna get them done soon or save them for Bratfest?

tdybr27 · « **Reply #78 on:** June 11, 2009, 07:47:44 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on June 11, 2009, 04:13:28 PM

I can't believe you don't have these already. Gonna get them done soon or save them for Bratfest?

Hmm now there's an idea.... I could get these done at BratFest.

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #79 on:** June 12, 2009, 04:13:20 AM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on June 11, 2009, 04:13:28 PM

I can't believe you don't have these already. Gonna get them done soon or save them for Bratfest?

going to try and get them done soon,so at least they're done before bratfest!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #80 on:** June 12, 2009, 04:51:31 AM »

Quote from: tdybr27 on June 11, 2009, 07:47:44 PM

Hmm now there's an idea.... I could get these done at BratFest.

That'll work, we'll put you in charge of removing and reinstalling the tail light lenses.

02_Z71 · « **Reply #81 on:** June 12, 2009, 07:13:03 AM »

I read through this entire thread. I might have missed it mentioned somewhere but if you have a 2002, the "snap in" leds will not work. On 2002's there is actually a metal support piece behind the said panel and the sail panels are held in with screws rather than the snap lock thingies. 2003+ yr do not have a metal support piece behind the sail panels.

I bought the autozone licence plate leds and ended up having to pull the leds out of the screws and cut the screw down to about 3/4" with a dremel tool so that the wires would not snap off when they were screwed all of the way in. I didn't know that they were different until I saw someone else doing their at the same GTG. If I knew the difference, I would have taken some pictures so others with 2002 could see what they are facing.

As many of you know Moddess loves to mod, but after helping me with my sail panel leds (her 1st led mod on a 2002), she will not do the sail panel mod on a 2002 anymore.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #82 on:** June 12, 2009, 10:32:39 AM »

Quote from: 02_Z71 on June 12, 2009, 07:13:03 AM

I read through this entire thread. I might have missed it mentioned somewhere but if you have a 2002, the "snap in" leds will not work. On 2002's there is actually a metal support piece behind the said panel and the sail panels are held in with screws rather than the snap lock thingies. 2003+ yr do not have a metal support piece behind the sail panels.

I bought the autozone licence plate leds and ended up having to pull the leds out of the screws and cut the screw down to about 3/4" with a dremel tool so that the wires would not snap off when they were screwed all of the way in. I didn't know that they were different until I saw someone else doing their at the same GTG. If I knew the difference, I would have taken some pictures so others with 2002 could see what they are facing.

As many of you know Moddess loves to mod, but after helping me with my sail panel leds (her 1st led mod on a 2002), she will not do the sail panel mod on a 2002 anymore.

Our 06 has metal as well. two of ours sticks out because of it. all you have to do is bend the metal tab down out of the way. There have been many others that did this. I need to, just been to lazy. I will be ordering the Oznium as well. I have the Radio hack ones right now but the Oznium are alot brighter.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #83 on:** June 12, 2009, 10:34:19 AM »

Quote from: EWeezY01 on June 11, 2009, 04:09:56 PM

I got a big dog............ummmmm.........

Ok you got me there Max is way to big to fit under the covers and he would take up teh whole inside.

You need to get a pic of Max bside or in the bed of the av and post it on here.

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #84 on:** June 13, 2009, 04:26:28 AM »

Alright can do ....as i am at weekend duty right now. Ill try to snap a pic when i get off.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #85 on:** June 13, 2009, 07:12:50 AM »

Quote from: EWeezY01 on June 13, 2009, 04:26:28 AM

Alright can do ....as i am at weekend duty right now. Ill try to snap a pic when i get off.

Cool, Here's the pets thread

Donnie1 · « **Reply #86 on:** June 13, 2009, 08:58:43 AM »

Quote from: EWeezY01 on June 13, 2009, 04:26:28 AM

Alright can do ....as i am at weekend duty right now. Ill try to snap a pic when i get off.

I was there too, down in T9.

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #87 on:** June 13, 2009, 10:12:14 AM »

OH YEA the ol weekend shift.........

.......how i feel about beeing here @ 3 A.M......till who knows when!

Donnie1 · « **Reply #88 on:** June 13, 2009, 09:47:50 PM »

Quote from: EWeezY01 on June 13, 2009, 10:12:14 AM

OH YEA the ol weekend shift......... .......how i feel about beeing here @ 3 A.M......till who knows when!

Now I'm back. Slept from 0900-1730 (9 am -5:30 pm for those non-military). Gina had to wake me up.

EWeezY01 · « **Reply #89 on:** June 14, 2009, 07:30:57 AM »

Now thats what i need to do!!!!!!!!!!!!

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #90 on:** July 17, 2009, 01:51:37 PM »

Quote from: 02_Z71 on June 12, 2009, 07:13:03 AM

I read through this entire thread. I might have missed it mentioned somewhere but if you have a 2002, the "snap in" leds will not work. On 2002's there is actually a metal support piece behind the said panel and the sail panels are held in with screws rather than the snap lock thingies. 2003+ yr do not have a metal support piece behind the sail panels.

I bought the autozone licence plate leds and ended up having to pull the leds out of the screws and cut the screw down to about 3/4" with a dremel tool so that the wires would not snap off when they were screwed all of the way in. I didn't know that they were different until I saw someone else doing their at the same GTG. If I knew the difference, I would have taken some pictures so others with 2002 could see what they are facing.

As many of you know Moddess loves to mod, but after helping me with my sail panel leds (her 1st led mod on a 2002), she will not do the sail panel mod on a 2002 anymore.

I didnt think it was that bad.we used the oznium lights so they come ready to go.only problem i had was using the chrome connectors (5mm)we needed to dremel out a little larger hole for them to push in and then no prob! be aware that the top sail panel hole is already larger than the others so no dremel was needed(at least on mine) we tightened them down,ran and connected the wires(the hard part) then hooked them up.took about three hours with a lot of good conversation in between!

alwhite00 · « **Reply #91 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:12:16 PM »

OK, I have this link http://www.oznium.com/prewired-leds - Where are the little snap in deals that go around the light, Not sure where to look. Also, Is there any way to run them as running lights AND brake / blinkers? Just curious.

LK

trAVelingman · « **Reply #92 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:31:00 PM »

Quote from: alwhite00 on July 17, 2009, 07:12:16 PM

OK, I have this link http://www.oznium.com/prewired-leds - Where are the little snap in deals that go around the light, Not sure where to look. Also, Is there any way to run them as running lights AND brake / blinkers? Just curious.

LK

http://www.oznium.com/led-holder. Yes, there is a thread describing the mod you asked about. I will see if I can find it and post a link to it shortly.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #93 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:42:23 PM »

Quote from: alwhite00 on July 17, 2009, 07:12:16 PM

OK, I have this link http://www.oznium.com/prewired-leds - Where are the little snap in deals that go around the light, Not sure where to look. Also, Is there any way to run them as running lights AND brake / blinkers? Just curious.

LK

reply # 7 in this thread starts the write up complete with link to the part numbers from Oznium. I don't have the schematic to do the stop/turns/running lights but I could prolly draw one up.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #94 on:** July 18, 2009, 09:00:17 AM »

We also ran the wires down behind the taillight (once removed, there is a hole all the way down behind the taillight) and attached the ground to a bolt under the Av and the power wires to the trailer plug that Jeff had under there for his LOF. I did the same on EWeezy01's as well.

TexasAVY · « **Reply #95 on:** July 18, 2009, 02:24:22 PM »

I have the Oznium lights also and gonna try to get them put in this coming week while I am on vaction alon with rear work light under the rear bumber and lights on my running boards.

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #96 on:** July 18, 2009, 03:03:59 PM »

Quote from: TexasAVY on July 18, 2009, 02:24:22 PM

I have the Oznium lights also and gonna try to get them put in this coming week while I am on vaction alon with rear work light under the rear bumber and lights on my running boards.

sweet! you'll love them!

trAVelingman · « **Reply #97 on:** July 25, 2009, 10:15:37 AM »

A pic of the cockroach and the parts required to install the LED's as running lights, brake lights and turn signals.....

Donnie1 · « **Reply #98 on:** July 25, 2009, 05:46:17 PM »

Quote from: trAVelingman on July 25, 2009, 10:15:37 AM

A pic of the cockroach and the parts required to install the LED's as running lights, brake lights and turn signals.....

That just hooks straight into the taillights, correct?

Anybody know if there are LED's oout there that would 2 different filaments, one brighter than the other for brake lights or would it be the same light? I just think it would be comfusing if all of a sudden the running light started blinking at the same intensity.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #99 on:** July 25, 2009, 08:57:41 PM »

Quote from: Donnie1 on July 25, 2009, 05:46:17 PM

That just hooks straight into the taillights, correct?

Anybody know if there are LED's oout there that would 2 different filaments, one brighter than the other for brake lights or would it be the same light? I just think it would be comfusing if all of a sudden the running light started blinking at the same intensity.

The inline resistor going to the running lights will make the spl's dimmer than when you apply the brakes.

Think of a resistor as a choke point, it will only allow "x" amount of voltage to pass through it. You put the resistor going to the running lights so they are dimmer than the "unchoked" brake light lead.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #100 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:23:42 AM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on July 25, 2009, 08:57:41 PM

The inline resistor going to the running lights will make the spl's dimmer than when you apply the brakes.

Think of a resistor as a choke point, it will only allow "x" amount of voltage to pass through it. You put the resistor going to the running lights so they are dimmer than the "unchoked" brake light lead.

That makes sense.

Main One · « **Reply #101 on:** July 27, 2009, 11:16:01 AM »

Quote from: Donnie1 on July 27, 2009, 09:23:42 AM

That makes sense.

Unless you have an electrical engineering degree, but it's close enough.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #102 on:** July 27, 2009, 03:31:33 PM »

Quote from: Main One on July 27, 2009, 11:16:01 AM

Unless you have an electrical engineering degree, but it's close enough.

I'd say something about having to fix stuff that our electrical engineers design but I won't.

That's how it was explained to me one time and it seemed like a pretty simple way to understand it.

Ski Edition · « **Reply #103 on:** January 28, 2010, 02:54:00 PM »

Nice write up OBB. Going to give this a shot this weekend!!

usafcorder · « **Reply #104 on:** December 05, 2010, 07:43:40 PM »

ok im getting new to the whole fixing up the av to get taht nice home feeling...is this wiring good for 02 z66 wit claddin?

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #105 on:** December 05, 2010, 09:53:22 PM »

Quote from: usafcorder on December 05, 2010, 07:43:40 PM

ok im getting new to the whole fixing up the av to get taht nice home feeling...is this wiring good for 02 z66 wit claddin?

The wiring is fine as explained in the pix in the write up. The only thing is the lights themselves. Look at yours and see if your cladding has the plastic or metal screws holding the sail panels together.

usafcorder · « **Reply #106 on:** December 05, 2010, 10:09:22 PM »

ok kew ill check the screws after work thanks.

usafcorder · « **Reply #107 on:** December 21, 2010, 06:36:53 AM »

i just recieved my 5mm led bulbs and covers however the wiring connected to the led bulbs seem really short.. are they suppose to be short? if pictures needed i will post some. it just doesnt seem that all 8 leds will reach the tail light.

ChevyGuyNC · « **Reply #108 on:** December 21, 2010, 08:32:31 AM »

Quote from: usafcorder on December 21, 2010, 06:36:53 AM

i just recieved my 5mm led bulbs and covers however the wiring connected to the led bulbs seem really short.. are they suppose to be short? if pictures needed i will post some. it just doesnt seem that all 8 leds will reach the tail light.

Yes, that's how they come. You'll need to extend them. Gather the extended reds and blacks together in front of the side box, then run a single black/red pair back to the tail light. (Note: don't connect in series, tie all four reds together, and all four blacks)

usafcorder · « **Reply #109 on:** December 22, 2010, 03:17:15 AM »

ok let me get this straight.. sorry im a noobtastic 21 yr old who can only put gear and weapons together .. i place all the leds in the proper hole.. and then gather the red and black wires i combine the black together and the red together and then i take the black and red wires from the lailight and combine that with the red a d black wires i have tied up?

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #110 on:** December 22, 2010, 05:06:06 AM »

Quote from: usafcorder on December 22, 2010, 03:17:15 AM

ok let me get this straight.. sorry im a noobtastic 21 yr old who can only put gear and weapons together .. i place all the leds in the proper hole.. and then gather the red and black wires i combine the black together and the red together and then i take the black and red wires from the lailight and combine that with the red a d black wires i have tied up?

yup

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #111 on:** December 22, 2010, 05:14:08 AM »

Quote from: ChevyGuyNC on December 21, 2010, 08:32:31 AM

Yes, that's how they come. You'll need to extend them. Gather the extended reds and blacks together in front of the side box, then run a single black/red pair back to the tail light. (Note: don't connect in series, tie all four reds together, and all four blacks)

Thinking about this a little more. The write up also has them run in parallel. It's just 4 different connection points instead of one.

If your wires are not long enough to make one big connection point you would need to extend the wires from the leds to that connections point which also adds more connections (more chances for breaks or mistakes). I will try to test the "series connection" today if I get time.

usafcorder · « **Reply #112 on:** December 22, 2010, 05:29:48 AM »

ok ty you so much beboy appreciate all the help. now ima go offtopic and ask if the member support donation page is up?

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #113 on:** December 22, 2010, 08:57:43 AM »

Quote from: usafcorder on December 22, 2010, 05:29:48 AM

ok ty you so much beboy appreciate all the help. now ima go offtopic and ask if the member support donation page is up?

We'll have to get with Mick about that. He handles all that. I'm just a glorified threadsitter.

TexasAVY · « **Reply #114 on:** December 22, 2010, 11:54:30 AM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on December 22, 2010, 05:06:06 AM

yup

Except I don't think the tail lights have a red & black wire. I don't remember for sure what color the tail light wire is, but it is not red. Take your red wire and connect to the tail light wire. Take youe black wire and fasten to a good body ground, under a nut or put a bolt though one of the holes in the frame and fasten your black wires to that.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #115 on:** December 22, 2010, 12:53:36 PM »

Quote from: TexasAVY on December 22, 2010, 11:54:30 AM

Except I don't think the tail lights have a red & black wire. I don't remember for sure what color the tail light wire is, but it is not red. Take your red wire and connect to the tail light wire. Take youe black wire and fasten to a good body ground, under a nut or put a bolt though one of the holes in the frame and fasten your black wires to that.

You're correct. The wiring for the 02-06 years is in the write up with a drawing.

TexasAVY · « **Reply #116 on:** December 22, 2010, 02:59:52 PM »

How you doing, Mike?

HenryJ · « **Reply #117 on:** December 23, 2010, 07:10:57 AM »

Quote from: usafcorder on December 22, 2010, 03:17:15 AM

ok let me get this straight.. sorry im a noobtastic 21 yr old who can only put gear and weapons together .. i place all the leds in the proper hole.. and then gather the red and black wires i combine the black together and the red together and then i take the black and red wires from the lailight and combine that with the red a d black wires i have tied up?

The black need to go to a good ground. I did that under the side compartment. I went to the trailer wiring with the red wires and tied into the green and yellow wires there. Mine are stop and turn.

usafcorder · « **Reply #118 on:** December 24, 2010, 03:57:32 AM »

ok sounds like u taped down the black wiring and didnt use the black!? and for the red you wrapped it with the yellow and green?

cdingevan · « **Reply #119 on:** September 12, 2011, 07:54:24 PM »

Quick question. If I tie the red from the left to yellow, the red from the right to the green, and the blacks to the white on the hitch connector, will the running, brake and the blinkers work or to you need the diodes and resistors? I'm using the superbright leds.

Thanks.

Chris

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #120 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:07:57 PM »

Quote from: cdingevan on September 12, 2011, 07:54:24 PM

Quick question. If I tie the red from the left to yellow, the red from the right to the green, and the blacks to the white on the hitch connector, will the running, brake and the blinkers work or to you need the diodes and resistors? I'm using the superbright leds.

Thanks.

Chris

You need a ground for them to work. I can't think of what the white in the hitch connector is at the moment. You will need the diodes to prevent backfeed and the resistors on the brown in the trailer wiring to dim the lights down for the running lights. It's been a while since I did this write up but I'm pretty sure there's a drawing of everything you need.

HenryJ · « **Reply #121 on:** September 14, 2011, 01:45:00 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on September 12, 2011, 08:07:57 PM

You need a ground for them to work. I can't think of what the white in the hitch connector is at the moment. You will need the diodes to prevent backfeed and the resistors on the brown in the trailer wiring to dim the lights down for the running lights. It's been a while since I did this write up but I'm pretty sure there's a drawing of everything you need.

White is the ground wire on the trailer connector.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #122 on:** September 14, 2011, 07:59:24 PM »

Quote from: HenryJ on September 14, 2011, 01:45:00 PM

White is the ground wire on the trailer connector.

Thanks HJ

HenryJ · « **Reply #123 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:18:17 PM »

I have been really happy with mine as the brake/turn signals. I don't really feel I lost anything by not adding the diodes and resistor to have running lamps.
Thanks for the mod.

cdingevan · « **Reply #124 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:23:44 AM »

Here is my mod. running, blinker and brake light all working.

Al · « **Reply #125 on:** September 23, 2011, 09:37:31 AM »

That's on my list of mods to get done.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #126 on:** September 23, 2011, 07:22:27 PM »

Quote from: cdingevan on September 22, 2011, 10:23:44 AM

Here is my mod. running, blinker and brake light all working.

wthhunter · « **Reply #127 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:23:44 PM »

so if i buy the prewired ones off oznium.com i can use the piece the screw goes into on my sailpanels? (04 wbh). or where are yall finding pieces to mount the leds?

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #128 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:48:05 PM »

Quote from: wthhunter on January 07, 2012, 08:23:44 PM

so if i buy the prewired ones off oznium.com i can use the piece the screw goes into on my sailpanels? (04 wbh). or where are yall finding pieces to mount the leds?

Part numbers for both the leds and the holders are in the thread or in the "how to" write up in the tech articles section.You replace the screws with the leds.
http://www.chevyavalancheclub.com/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=33

wthhunter · « **Reply #129 on:** January 08, 2012, 11:09:41 PM »

do the screws actually function as screws? because i got my drill and tried unscrewing them but they dont do shit. soo do they just pop out?

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #130 on:** January 09, 2012, 05:19:52 AM »

Quote from: wthhunter on January 08, 2012, 11:09:41 PM

do the screws actually function as screws? because i got my drill and tried unscrewing them but they dont do shit. soo do they just pop out?

They're a plastic "keeper" so to speak. Take a phillips screwdriver and back them out. May have to wedge a flat surface under the head of the screw to apply a little pressure for the threads to bite.

wthhunter · « **Reply #131 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:41:17 AM »

started to do the sail panel project tonight and noticed that my prewired LEDS had been stolen. soooo guess i'll need to wait till next time