Author Topic: vortech v-2 trim loud whine from blower (Read 3798 times)

bluedevil · « **on:** June 15, 2008, 09:40:49 AM »

I installed the v-2 trim last august. It ran just fine until last night.

I start the truck and a loud whine is heard off the blower at idle and a tad louder when stepping on the gas.

I removed the inlets and no oil leaks where found. I checked the pulleys and belt and they seem fine.

I dont know what else to do. Any ideas?

Thanx
Mick.

Z66 Butch · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2008, 10:55:04 AM »

You need to take that thing off IMMEDIATELY!!! .................I'll give ya $50 for it.

MS03 2500 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2008, 11:07:17 AM »

Can you turn it by hand with the belt off. See if you can hear the noise while turning it and see if it is wobbling

bluedevil · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2008, 11:13:33 AM »

Quote from: Z66 Butch on June 15, 2008, 10:55:04 AM

You need to take that thing off IMMEDIATELY!!! .................I'll give ya $50 for it.

Quote from: MS03 on June 15, 2008, 11:07:17 AM

Can you turn it by hand with the belt off. See if you can hear the noise while turning it and see if it is wobbling

I can turn it just fine and it doesnt wobble. I can't turn it as fast as the revs to hear it. I thought i had a leak in the inlets but nope. Everything is secure.

It whined before but last night just got alot louder. I dont think is supposed to be like that after the break-in period. ...and yet ive never heard anybody elses blower to know the difference.

MS03 2500 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2008, 01:52:55 PM »

Are ya sure it's the blower, maybe the ALT or belt tensioner. Ya may want to check everything on the belt including the water pump

bluedevil · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2008, 02:09:49 PM »

Quote from: MS03 on June 15, 2008, 01:52:55 PM

Are ya sure it's the blower, maybe the ALT or belt tensioner. Ya may want to check everything on the belt including the water pump

yes. Is loud coming off the blower.

bluedevil · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2008, 03:03:13 PM »

Well...... i removed the Oil Feel line and pointed it to a water bottle. Removed the fuel pump relay and cranked it.

I have oil pressure ok i guess. I filled the bottle after the crank.

Richie_Rich · « **Reply #7 on:** June 15, 2008, 03:40:17 PM »

I've never seen one of those superchargers up close and off the vehicle to take a look at, but it looks very similar to a turbo.
When a turbo whines, it's a sign that the impeller shaft or bearings need to be replaced.
The sound on a turbo is the impeller it contacting the side wall.
The last turbo I had with bad bearings started sounding like a fire truck siren as I'd rev the engine

To check a turbo, you pull off the intake pipe and try to wiggle the impeller.
Can you do that with the Vortech?
You can expect some play, but not excessive.
You may need to disconnect the belt if it is direct drive.
~~Make sure your belt isn't too tight either.~~Scratch that....serpentine belt

I hope this helps.

bluedevil · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2008, 08:34:07 AM »

Thanx Rich for the reply. I took the day off to work on it and call Vortech Co.
The impellers seem ok with no rubbing or grinding.

I bypassed the blower with the factory belt and it sounds beautiful like it should be. That said, now I know the blower has trouble. Vortech opens at 8am pacific time. :::sigh:::

Main One · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2008, 08:36:20 AM »

Is it under warranty?

The Beast · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2008, 08:44:07 AM »

I love the whine of the Procharger, but didnt think the Vortech made as much noise. Let us know what they find out!!

MyBigToy · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2008, 09:17:59 AM »

I could make a politically incorrect statement about supercharger brand choice but I will refrain.

Sorry to hear you have problems, Mick. The unit should still be under warranty, shouldn't it? You may be taking it off and sending it back for service. I seem to remember INresponse had to do that with his Procharger. I believe, if I remember correctly, that the bearings were shot on it. Just from your description it doesn't sound like that's the case.

bluedevil · « **Reply #12 on:** June 16, 2008, 09:54:14 AM »

I need to call again.

Yes,i have 2+ yrs warranty left. Dammit! I shouldve went with the Maggie instead.

Donnie1 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 16, 2008, 09:55:11 AM »

I bet Trish has been taking it out without your knowledge and racing the ricers.

bluedevil · « **Reply #14 on:** June 16, 2008, 11:16:42 AM »

Well this stinks. With the description given,they think a bearing(s) is going bad. I have to pack it and send it in for repairs out of my own pocket.

...and to top it off,i cant drive the AV with the factory belt and factory tune because the 40# injectors. That blows!

Main One · « **Reply #15 on:** June 16, 2008, 11:53:35 AM »

Why can't you drive with the factory belt?

bluedevil · « **Reply #16 on:** June 16, 2008, 12:13:16 PM »

Quote from: Main One on June 16, 2008, 11:53:35 AM

Why can't you drive with the factory belt?

I would have to change the injectors back to stock,retune back to factory,replace the CAI and plug the oil lines.

Main One · « **Reply #17 on:** June 16, 2008, 12:22:06 PM »

I would think that you could run on the injectors and the tune you have installed now.

The CAI and oil lines may not be that big of a deal.

bluedevil · « **Reply #18 on:** June 16, 2008, 12:42:49 PM »

Quote from: Main One on June 16, 2008, 12:22:06 PM

I would think that you could run on the injectors and the tune you have installed now.

The CAI and oil lines may not be that big of a deal.

Thats what i thought too. I need to find a fat bolt to stick in the oil hoses tho'.

...oh and somehow plug the vacuum nipple.

bluedevil · « **Reply #19 on:** June 16, 2008, 01:05:13 PM »

That sucks. The factory CAI wont fit as the vortech coolant hose is in the way.

Hmmmm,.....i wonder if doubled up coffee filters will get me by

Richie_Rich · « **Reply #20 on:** June 16, 2008, 01:16:24 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on June 16, 2008, 12:42:49 PM

Thats what i thought too. I need to find a fat bolt to stick in the oil hoses tho'.

...oh and somehow plug the vacuum nipple.

Not sure how the oil line connects, but I'd be surprised if they weren't hard line ends.
If they are hard line, then get a brass tee or coupler and plug the other end.

Golf tees work great for plugging vacuum lines.

If you have an oil drain like a turbo, a cork works pretty good to plug that up.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2008, 07:22:12 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on June 16, 2008, 11:16:42 AM

Well this stinks. With the description given,they think a bearing(s) is going bad. I have to pack it and send it in for repairs out of my own pocket.

...and to top it off,i cant drive the AV with the factory belt and factory tune because the 40# injectors. That blows!

Bearings are covered by the warranty?

bluedevil · « **Reply #22 on:** June 18, 2008, 05:09:11 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on June 16, 2008, 07:22:12 PM

Bearings are covered by the warranty?

Yes,everything.

I finally got around to it and shipped the blower today.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #23 on:** June 18, 2008, 08:52:23 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on June 16, 2008, 07:22:12 PM

Bearings are covered by the warranty?

I meant to say bearings aren't covered......you said you had to pack it up and send it in for repairs out of your own pocket, or were you just talking about shipping?

bluedevil · « **Reply #24 on:** June 18, 2008, 08:55:22 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on June 18, 2008, 08:52:23 PM

I meant to say bearings aren't covered......you said you had to pack it up and send it in for repairs out of your own pocket, or were you just talking about shipping?

Ahhh..... shipping is out of pocket. I shipped it today. $14 UPS.

Sunburst05 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2008, 01:20:22 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on June 18, 2008, 08:55:22 PM

Ahhh..... shipping is out of pocket. I shipped it today. $14 UPS.

I hope you insured it as the last thing I got from UPS was trashed.

bluedevil · « **Reply #26 on:** June 19, 2008, 04:24:23 PM »

Quote from: Sunburst05 on June 19, 2008, 01:20:22 PM

I hope you insured it as the last thing I got from UPS was trashed.

Dayuum! Nope. I didnt.

tdybr27 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 19, 2008, 04:26:03 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on June 19, 2008, 04:24:23 PM

Dayuum! Nope. I didnt.

Should have sent it USPS so you could blame MoAV if they got lost!

MyBigToy · « **Reply #28 on:** June 26, 2008, 08:49:56 PM »

So what's the feedback? They were supposed to have a quick turnaround so you should have at least heard something by now.

bluedevil · « **Reply #29 on:** June 26, 2008, 08:55:56 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on June 26, 2008, 08:49:56 PM

So what's the feedback? They were supposed to have a quick turnaround so you should have at least heard something by now.

Nope. Nothing yet. Im calling tomorrow

::sigh::: i miss my truck.

FlaBouy · « **Reply #30 on:** June 27, 2008, 06:25:03 AM »

"He's not replying to my post. I think cuz i called his attention over at MAC."

You mind explaining this? You do realize that even though they have me IP blocked, I still get into that site at will? I responded to your post on my site as soon as I saw it, but since you have not been back since to check for a response, it is somehow my fault? Guess bashing me on CAFNA is still open season these days.... Shame, because I thought you were one of the good ones.

Anywho, my recomendation was even though you checked for oil flow by breaking the line, I recommended checking the oil filter that resides in the 90* fitting going into the blower. If it were to pick up trash from the engine oil pan and get clogged, it might restrict oil flow and cause bearings to go bad.... I have run my V2 for the last 2 years without that inline filter with no issue. When I trade it off for the YSi next month I suspect to get a grade A trade in credit because the blower is still performing as quiet as the day I slapped it on.... I am trading it in only because it will not blow enough air to fill the L92 heads on the new motor.

Good Luck with your issue...

MoAv · « **Reply #31 on:** June 27, 2008, 12:18:24 PM »

Quote from: tdybr27 on June 19, 2008, 04:26:03 PM

Should have sent it USPS so you could blame MoAV if they got lost!

I saw that....

tdybr27 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 27, 2008, 01:24:26 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on June 27, 2008, 12:18:24 PM

I saw that....

'bout time... sheesh no wonder the mail is so slow!

MoAv · « **Reply #33 on:** June 27, 2008, 02:45:56 PM »

The mail? nope. Me? Yup...it's too hot out to move fast....

Any word yet Blue?

bluedevil · « **Reply #34 on:** June 27, 2008, 05:33:32 PM »

Quote from: FlaBouy on June 27, 2008, 06:25:03 AM

"He's not replying to my post. I think cuz i called his attention over at MAC."

You mind explaining this? You do realize that even though they have me IP blocked, I still get into that site at will? I responded to your post on my site as soon as I saw it, but since you have not been back since to check for a response, it is somehow my fault? Guess bashing me on CAFNA is still open season these days.... Shame, because I thought you were one of the good ones.

Anywho, my recomendation was even though you checked for oil flow by breaking the line, I recommended checking the oil filter that resides in the 90* fitting going into the blower. If it were to pick up trash from the engine oil pan and get clogged, it might restrict oil flow and cause bearings to go bad.... I have run my V2 for the last 2 years without that inline filter with no issue. When I trade it off for the YSi next month I suspect to get a grade A trade in credit because the blower is still performing as quiet as the day I slapped it on.... I am trading it in only because it will not blow enough air to fill the L92 heads on the new motor.

Good Luck with your issue...

When i posted at your little corner of the world, you made 3 replies to MainOne's posts right after i posted my issues the same day. I thought you were upset over our last PM's. I gave up waiting and today i went to your site and you replied 2 days later.

No biggie Rick,...im not going to get drawn to another escapade with you. Your priviledges at cafcna,i dont know anything about it. I replied like that as i thought you were upset or something.

...btw,... i got your pm's. Im not hurt in any way.

bluedevil · « **Reply #35 on:** June 27, 2008, 05:33:52 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on June 27, 2008, 02:45:56 PM

The mail? nope. Me? Yup...it's too hot out to move fast....

Any word yet Blue?

No.

FlaBouy · « **Reply #36 on:** June 28, 2008, 10:19:42 AM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on June 27, 2008, 05:33:32 PM

... I gave up waiting and today i went to your site and you replied 2 days later.....

Indeed. Here is what I posted:

Dam, missed this one. Looks like it got covered up with the dyno sheet thread. Anywho, if you have pressure through the feed line, check the filter. The V2 has a small filter in the 90* brass fitting at the compressor. Make sure it has no trash in it. I used to check mine every time I changed my right up to the point I tossed it in the trash. My line is full open.

If the filter is clean and you have , I suspect a bearing gave up the ghost. It is at this point you use the 3 year warranty.

Good Luck

I have taken steps to ensure that we will never have this misunderstanding again... It is a shame when I have never tried to do anything but help you with your build, saving you money in the process. And yet because I am not sitting there waiting on you to ask me a question, you take liberty to bash me at the punk site. That goes to character...

Good Luck with your build..

KY_BOB · « **Reply #37 on:** July 03, 2008, 01:48:08 PM »

Dang Mick, sorry to hear about your problem.

Let us know how it turns out.

bluedevil · « **Reply #38 on:** July 09, 2008, 04:08:58 PM »

Well......its here.

The invoice shows a $360 worth the work under warranty. What gets me is, the desciption given on work performed was: "minor repair". What the hell is that? I would like to know what they fixed ya know?

Anywho,....cant install it yet. I sent the inlet/outlet to my painter for a paint job

MoAv · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10, 2008, 12:39:29 AM »

Glad to hear it's back!! I'll bet you'll be glad to get it all back together

tdybr27 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 10, 2008, 07:48:46 AM »

Quote from: MoAv on July 10, 2008, 12:39:29 AM

Glad to hear it's back!! I'll bet you'll be glad to get it all back together

Nah, the time away from his AV has given him ideas to supercharge his old/new to him Silvy!

MyBigToy · « **Reply #41 on:** July 10, 2008, 08:49:57 AM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on July 09, 2008, 04:08:58 PM

Well......its here.

The invoice shows a $360 worth the work under warranty. What gets me is, the desciption given on work performed was: "minor repair". What the hell is that? I would like to know what they fixed ya know?

I'd have to call. I would have to know exactly what they had to do to fix it. I like Fla's idea of removing the in-line filter or else would start checking it very frequently.

bluedevil · « **Reply #42 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:57:47 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on July 10, 2008, 08:49:57 AM

I'd have to call. I would have to know exactly what they had to do to fix it. I like Fla's idea of removing the in-line filter or else would start checking it very frequently.

Yep.... im calling to find out.

MyBigToy · « **Reply #43 on:** July 24, 2008, 12:20:02 PM »

So are you back together and running yet, Mick? Did you find out the specifics?

bluedevil · « **Reply #44 on:** July 24, 2008, 03:52:48 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on July 24, 2008, 12:20:02 PM

So are you back together and running yet, Mick? Did you find out the specifics?

Nahh..i never called him. I forgot. My Av still not running. The inlets are painted but ive been lazy to pick them up (15 miles away). Im doing so tomorrow.

bluedevil · « **Reply #45 on:** July 25, 2008, 06:46:31 PM »

Woohoo! Im running again! Yeah baby!

I picked up the inlets today and installed it with the repaired blower. I let it run for 15 minutes to warm up and took it for a spin. I was gone for a good 45 minutes,....and yes,i hot-dogged the crap out of it. When i got home i looked under the hood to see if anything was broken,....nope,i guess im good to go.

Dammit! I missed my AV. It didnt run for 4-5 weeks. Im happy now.

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #46 on:** July 25, 2008, 09:41:15 PM »

Looks Great BD

Got any tires left on those rims?

MoAv · « **Reply #47 on:** July 29, 2008, 12:53:36 AM »

GREAT Blue!! I can imagine how long that 4-5 weeks was - mine was only gone a week and I went through withdrawals!! Glad to hear it's running so well for you

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #48 on:** July 29, 2008, 11:54:10 AM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on July 25, 2008, 06:46:31 PM

Woohoo! Im running again! Yeah baby!

I picked up the inlets today and installed it with the repaired blower. I let it run for 15 minutes to warm up and took it for a spin. I was gone for a good 45 minutes,....and yes,i hot-dogged the crap out of it. When i got home i looked under the hood to see if anything was broken,....nope,i guess im good to go.

Dammit! I missed my AV. It didnt run for 4-5 weeks. Im happy now.

Sweet! great to hear! cant wait to see you guys again next month!

tdybr27 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 29, 2008, 01:53:21 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on July 29, 2008, 12:53:36 AM

GREAT Blue!! I can imagine how long that 4-5 weeks was - mine was only gone a week and I went through withdrawals!! Glad to hear it's running so well for you

But at least he had another Chevy to drive... you had a Suzuki

bluedevil · « **Reply #50 on:** July 29, 2008, 04:43:24 PM »

Yeah Jeff,we cant wait to see you guys again.

oh yeah.....i love my 97 silvy

Too bad im not modding it.

Main One · « **Reply #51 on:** July 29, 2008, 06:16:11 PM »

4-5 weeks? I would have had SERIOUS withdrawl issues. Glad it's back together for you!