Author Topic: Dyno Wars @ 2008 Nationals (Read 4286 times)

bluedevil · « **on:** January 15, 2008, 02:22:51 PM »

Lord Aries posted @cafcna

AVALANCHE DYNO WARS

2008 Nationals GTG
(Banner coming soon)

So, you think you’ve got the most powerful Avalanche or maybe just more power then the one next to yours or just wondering how much power your AV makes? Well, its time to find out!!!

Tentative Date: All day on the 25th and 26th
Event Coordinator: Lord Aries
Event Judges/Officials: Livernois Motorsports

The Portable Dyno - Livernois Motorsports

I am working closely with my friends here on CAFCNA and at Livernois Motorsports to make this event a reality at the 2008 Nationals, in order for this to happen there are a few things that we need to cover.

1) Participants – we will need at least 20-25 trucks to compete
2) Cost – There will be a MAXIMUM $100.00 charge to compete
3) Attitude – This is meant to be fun so, lets keep it that way

The first 20-25 participants will have to be signed up and pre-paid by sometime in April-May to ensure that Livernois does not drag the Dyno to the event and then no one shows up to play leaving the event coordinators footing a massive bill.

The cost to make this happen is not at all cheap so, to offset some of that cost there will be a charge to compete in the event. Keep in mind that you WILL get a Dyno print out of your trucks performance! We are working with event sponsors to help cover the costs so, with any luck the event cost will be less then $100.00 but, for now just plan on that amount. FYI: $100.00 per hour is a fairly standard rate for most all shops for time on a Dyno.

Event Info

RULES - Based on experience at other similar events (subject to change)

Each competitor will get Two runs with a Ten minute break between the runs for a quick cool down. You will NOT be able to adjust your set up in anyway once on the Dyno, the best of two runs is your judged run to be compared to the other competitors in your class. Both Horse Power and Torque numbers are taken into consideration for the judged runs.

Your two runs will be scheduled to take place at a certain time of day to allow pursuit of other activities. If however you are not at the event at your scheduled time, you forfeit your runs unless the event coordinator can reschedule them later in the day.

Trucks will be set into a class when signing up but, Trucks will be inspected for class rating before being put on the Dyno at the event.

Classes (subject to change):

Stock+: Cold Air Intake and Exhaust ONLY.
*1500 and 2500 AV’s will not be in the same class

Hot Stock: Tune, Cold Air Intake, Larger Throttle Body, Headers, Exhaust, Under Drive Pulley’s, Electric Fans, Basic Transmission Upgrades.
*1500 and 2500 AV’s will not be in the same class

Bottle+: Wet or Dry Nitrous, minor motor work (cam, valve train), Basic Bolt-Ons and any drive train mods.
*1500 and 2500 AV’s in the same class

Natural Breathers: Any performance mods, motor swaps, any drive train mods. NO forced induction, NO Nitrous.
*1500 and 2500 AV’s in the same class

Boost Crazy: Turbo or Super Charged, any performance mods, motor swaps, drive train mods and Meth Injection. NO Nitrous.
*1500 and 2500 AV’s in the same class

Big Dogs: Any performance mods to the motor/drive train are allowed.
*1500 and 2500 AV’s in the same class

NOTE: Natural Breathers and Boost Crazy
If all competitors in these classes are equipped with Nitrous then Nitrous will be allowed other wise, disabled Nitrous systems will be confirmed by the Judges/officials.

And of course there will be Trophies and maybe even special prizes!!!

In order to participate in this event please PM me with the following info on you and your AV, this info will NOT be shared with anyone unless you want to post it in this thread yourself:

Screen Name:
Real Name:
1500 or 2500 AV:
Desired Class:
Nitrous Y/N:
Forced Induction Y/N:
Performance Mods (be honest, cheaters will be flogged):

Competitors:
Stock+
MoAv - 1500 AV
ChevyGuyNC - 1500 AV

Hot Stock
James21 - 1500 AV
Chopped_Burban - 1500 AV

Bottle+
Loggie - 1500 AV

Free Breathers
Main One - 1500 AV

Boost Crazy
Lord Aries – 1500 AV
SRFNSNO - 1500 AV
BlueDevil - 1500 AV

Big Dogs
KY_BOB - 1500 AV
BooTheRedNeck - 2500 AV

***I will update the list as they come in.

bluedevil · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2008, 07:30:30 PM »

List updated

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:00:53 PM »

NOT ME! Mine's just gonna look pretty. Didn't get that promotion to BD'S payscale yet to have that much fun.

bluedevil · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:04:49 PM »

Quote from: oHIobellboy on January 15, 2008, 09:00:53 PM

NOT ME! Mine's just gonna look pretty. Didn't get that promotion to BD'S payscale yet to have that much fun.

Liar!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:55:19 PM »

Quote from: Blue on January 15, 2008, 09:04:49 PM

Liar!

Honestly......Still an installer.

OOPS

Back to regularly sceduled B.S.'ing

KY_BOB · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2008, 10:48:56 PM »

You guys really need to play this game. It's not about who's the baddest.

This is going to be fun!!!!!!!

Strobin · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2008, 05:25:42 AM »

Motorswaps not allowed?

KY_BOB · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2008, 08:48:06 AM »

Blue, got any plan to up the power between now and then?

bluedevil · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2008, 08:54:02 AM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on January 17, 2008, 08:48:06 AM

Blue, got any plan to up the power between now and then?

Yes.

-aftercooler or meth
-nos
-efans

as a matter or fact i was looking on buying the after cooler last night but whats holding me is, once that installed the predator is no longer good for it. Thats when hptuners comes in but i still dont know how to use it well.

I need to gtg in kentucky someday with this guy i know named Bob.

MoAv · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2008, 09:54:41 AM »

I noticed that there is a "stock" class for those of us that haven't done any performance stuff yet. What would the purpose/benefit be to have a dyno run on a stock engine?? I'm not sure what the purpose of the dyno is I guess...

bluedevil · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2008, 10:27:28 AM »

Quote from: MoAv on January 17, 2008, 09:54:41 AM

I noticed that there is a "stock" class for those of us that haven't done any performance stuff yet. What would the purpose/benefit be to have a dyno run on a stock engine?? I'm not sure what the purpose of the dyno is I guess...

It tells ya what horse power you AV has. We know stock is 295hp (i think) If you added a CAI,maybe that will change to 296hp

KY_BOB · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2008, 10:53:15 AM »

Quote from: Blue on January 17, 2008, 08:54:02 AM

Yes.

-aftercooler or meth
-nos-efans

as a matter or fact i was looking on buying the after cooler last night but whats holding me is, once that installed the predator is no longer good for it. Thats when hptuners comes in but i still dont know how to use it well.

I need to gtg in kentucky someday with this guy i know named Bob.

Ahhhh, I was wondering why you ask to0 be in "Big Dog" instead of Boost Crazy.

I hope he can keep the cost down enough that I can run in both classes.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2008, 10:55:22 AM »

Quote from: Blue on January 17, 2008, 10:27:28 AM

It tells ya what horse power you AV has. We know stock is 295hp (i think) If you added a CAI,maybe that will change to 296hp

Right on.

Of course remember this is rear wheel horse power. Expect numbers in the 220-240 range from a stock AV.

bluedevil · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2008, 10:56:13 AM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on January 17, 2008, 10:53:15 AM

Ahhhh, I was wondering why you ask to0 be in "Big Dog" instead of Boost Crazy.

I hope he can keep the cost down enough that I can run in both classes.

Bigdogs is for those with tranny upgrades. Im one of them.

servos,shift-kit,torque converter

KY_BOB · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2008, 06:45:26 PM »

Quote from: Blue on January 15, 2008, 02:22:51 PM

Lord Aries posted @cafcna

Boost Crazy: Turbo or Super Charged, any performance mods, motor swaps, drive train mods and Meth Injection. NO Nitrous.
*1500 and 2500 AV’s in the same class

You can run "boost crazy" as long as you aren't spraying it.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2008, 08:42:02 AM »

Hey Blue, give me your opinion. Aries is saying that if I put a set of stock tires on my AV, I'm a dyno queen. What do you think, run it on the 33's and lose 30-40hp off the numbers or bolt on some stock tires and turn some big numbers?

bluedevil · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2008, 08:59:55 AM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on January 19, 2008, 08:42:02 AM

Hey Blue, give me your opinion. Aries is saying that if I put a set of stock tires on my AV, I'm a dyno queen. What do you think, run it on the 33's and lose 30-40hp off the numbers or bolt on some stock tires and turn some big numbers?

Is that a trick question?

I bet you never tried running on stock wheels before anyways. I'd say go for it but dont break the dyno cuz i want next

I think you'd be in the same range as Flabouy. Thats if he runs 600hp+ as he claims.

MoAv · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2008, 10:14:21 AM »

OK, just to give all you horsepower junkies a laugh, I've signed up for this in the stock class. I'm curious just what a stock AV has for horsepower and nobody else has signed up for the stock class. I'd like to do the idea someone had on CAFCNA, with a before/after dyno on stock/custom tune. Be interesting to see if it really makes enough of a difference to pay out the money for. Hopefully I'll have a tuner by then and someone can help me figure it out..hint...hint...hint...

bluedevil · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2008, 12:32:02 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on January 21, 2008, 10:14:21 AM

OK, just to give all you horsepower junkies a laugh, I've signed up for this in the stock class. I'm curious just what a stock AV has for horsepower and nobody else has signed up for the stock class. I'd like to do the idea someone had on CAFCNA, with a before/after dyno on stock/custom tune. Be interesting to see if it really makes enough of a difference to pay out the money for. Hopefully I'll have a tuner by then and someone can help me figure it out..hint...hint...hint...

Woot woot!

You'll show other stockers how is done!

MoAv · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2008, 12:36:42 PM »

I'll just ask the people running the dyno to hide my numbers-they will probably be embarrassing next to all of you guys!! But I'd kind of like to see how it all works...

KY_BOB · « **Reply #20 on:** January 21, 2008, 01:52:24 PM »

Quote from: Blue on January 19, 2008, 08:59:55 AM

I think you'd be in the same range as Flabouy. Thats if he runs 600hp+ as he claims.

He has ported aftermarket heads and a slightly larger cam than me. I think I can run with him on the spray (nitrous) but will be 60-70hp behind him on the motor.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #21 on:** January 21, 2008, 01:56:15 PM »

Quote from: MoAv on January 21, 2008, 12:36:42 PM

I'll just ask the people running the dyno to hide my numbers-they will probably be embarrassing next to all of you guys!! But I'd kind of like to see how it all works...

I think that there will be a lot of stock AV's running since there there and it's there. There aren't a lot of us that are true "gear heads" but I think a lot will sign up the day of the event.

MoAv · « **Reply #22 on:** January 21, 2008, 02:03:16 PM »

I hope so - I'd think it's going to be a lot of fun anyway!! Good idea on this one

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 21, 2008, 05:53:47 PM »

wish we could make it but it's not looking good right now. I'd be able to get those #'s for you Mo as I've just got my tuner. One pass stock and the other one tuned.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2008, 10:27:55 AM »

What can I say

Main One · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:05:19 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on January 23, 2008, 10:27:55 AM

What can I say

That it's ok 'cause you look good in drag????

bluedevil · « **Reply #26 on:** February 05, 2008, 05:08:57 PM »

List updated

Main One · « **Reply #27 on:** July 16, 2008, 08:00:21 AM »

I am going to OWN the Free Breathers class!

I expect to win a very nice prize for this accomplishment!

KY_BOB · « **Reply #28 on:** July 16, 2008, 08:48:00 AM »

Quote from: Main One on July 16, 2008, 08:00:21 AM

I am going to OWN the Free Breathers class!

I expect to win a very nice prize for this accomplishment!

I predict that you will win it. Got that cam re-adjusted yet?

Main One · « **Reply #29 on:** July 16, 2008, 09:04:05 AM »

Yep, back to straight-up, vice 6 degrees advanced.

Started running with my Gen II ram air box and brand new and larger K&N a couple of days ago. It is still rough, and I'm still working on the interface with the hood to seal it, but today is my last day at work until after the gtg to get it and other things ready. My recent Gtech runs were with the cam back with 0 advance, but with the Gen I box and filter.

I hope to use the Gtech to do some spark advance tweaking before hitting the dyno. I do have to readjust my MAF calibration still with the new box. Did my first scan last night. LTFTs went from 0 - -4 to around +5 - +11. No wonder I was hearing some knocking - I was getting more air into the cylinders than the computer thought, and hence it wasn't pulling enough advance out.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #30 on:** July 16, 2008, 11:11:45 AM »

Quote from: Main One on July 16, 2008, 09:04:05 AM

LTFTs went from 0 - -4 to around +5 - +11. No wonder I was hearing some knocking - I was getting more air into the cylinders than the computer thought, and hence it wasn't pulling enough advance out.

That's a good sign that it's doing what it was designed to do, make it easier to get fresh air.

Main One · « **Reply #31 on:** July 16, 2008, 11:15:19 AM »

That may be true, but I believe it is due to a slight difference in intake geometry affecting airflow through my (your) screenless MAF.