Author Topic: BlueDevil's Vortech SuperCharger Installation Progress (Read 5038 times)

bluedevil · « **on:** September 08, 2007, 03:18:37 PM »

So i cancelled my day at the autoshow tomorrow to work on the blower today. The installation so far have been pretty easy inside the engine bay.

Im pretty much dredding on drilling the oil pan for oil return but it needs to be done. (I'l tackle this tomorrow).

Installation of blower stopped the second i found out im missing the five 3/8-16 x 2-1/4 mounting bolts for the blower. Now i need to call those idiots so the send the bolts.

This is what i've done so far:

Removed alternator,fusible link junction box(red box),accesory belt,power steering pulley,fan shroud,engine idler and main braket.

Vortech main bracket installed

Re-installed alternator,idler,power steering pulley.

....and blower preset. I need the mounting screws dammit!!

Now im tired. Gotta go to a party tonight in the minivan??

KY_BOB · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2007, 09:42:04 AM »

justJR · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2007, 03:17:15 PM »

In the minivan? :crackup:Get down tough guy!
The blower is awsome! I'm jealous! My day will come!

bluedevil · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2007, 04:02:08 PM »

Round 2 begins Saturday! I found the bolts and washers at Auto Zone

bluedevil · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2007, 10:32:37 AM »

Blower and belt installed and secured.

bluedevil · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2007, 10:33:16 AM »

Now stumped

Whats wrong with this picture?

The book says drill a 9/16 hole and use 3/8 tap? How can this be possible? The 3/8 tap is a lot smaller than 9/16 rotobroach.

Hmmm...maybe im missing the concept here on step B & C.

MyBigToy · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2007, 12:17:04 PM »

You're dealing with a pipe tap, which is different than a regular tap. I haven't taken the time to research the information on the internet - I'm sure the drill/tap sizes are readily available - because unfortunately I'm at work today. I THINK the pipe tap is 3/8-18. You'll have to specify that it's a pipe tap if you want to look the information up. I've dealt pretty extensively with machining at one of my prior jobs.

WB · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2007, 02:23:57 PM »

I think you should use the tool on the bottom right of your pic to GENTLY cut your oil pan hole. Then tap it using the tap on top right of your pic. After that, Use the tap on the hole. I think 3/8 stands for the thread size and not the hole size.

Here's a link to a chart.

http://icrank.com/cgi-bin/pageman/pageout.cgi?path=/chart_npt.htm&t=2

Carry on Blue Devil!! :thumb:

bluedevil · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2007, 06:01:41 PM »

Ok. I got lots of things done today.

Installed:
-fuel injectors
-Coolant hoses
-inlet & outlet hoses
-attached blower

3 things are left to do:

-install oil lines. (Thanx Rick. Today i learned the difference between Coarse thread tap & pipe tap). Went o HomeDepot,Lowes,AutoZone & Sears and they dont carry a pipe tapper anymore. I need to check the local plumbing supply store on Monday.I was told they could be 'bout $100? Crazy! :P

-Valve Bypass
-Tune

oh yeah....the darn engine cover doesnt fit anymore.

WB · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2007, 06:45:57 PM »

After the tap...I smell a engine cover mod about to begin. ;D

Share what youlearned about the pipe tap. I must ahve been wrong about the thread thing?? :-[

woof · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2007, 10:38:49 PM »

WOW Blue, I step away from the AV club for a couple of months and am totally blown away by the mods you have been doing. Very impressive.......

Sunburst05 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2007, 11:06:45 PM »

Lookin great so far Mick.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2007, 09:07:05 AM »

Quote from: White Buffalo on September 15, 2007, 06:45:57 PM

After the tap...I smell a engine cover mod about to begin. ;D

Share what youlearned about the pipe tap. I must ahve been wrong about the thread thing?? :-[

Yea, I had alread thought about the fact that he's going to have to cut on that pretty blue engine cover :(

BTW, I did mine on a bench grinder. I know that a grinder is overkill for plastic but it made a nice smooth radius and looks factory. I have since given up on the engine cover because the nitrous lines are in the way. :-\

KY_BOB · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2007, 09:10:16 AM »

One more thing.... drilling and tapping the oil pan was a piece of cake thanks to the rotobroack. You'll be impressed with how well it works and how smooth the cut is. The way it's designed, it also kicks about 99% of the metal shavings back at you instead of letting them go into the oil pan.

bluedevil · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2007, 06:04:57 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on September 17, 2007, 09:07:05 AM

Yea, I had alread thought about the fact that he's going to have to cut on that pretty blue engine cover :(

BTW, I did mine on a bench grinder. I know that a grinder is overkill for plastic but it made a nice smooth radius and looks factory. I have since given up on the engine cover because the nitrous lines are in the way. :-\

I think im going to relocate it to the thread 2" to the left. I would need a longer screw. Not sure yet cuz i want everything yall have. Im getting greedy now

I want NOS,Meth,the works :thumb:

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #15 on:** September 17, 2007, 06:19:40 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on September 17, 2007, 06:04:57 PM

Quote from: KY_BOB on September 17, 2007, 09:07:05 AM

Yea, I had alread thought about the fact that he's going to have to cut on that pretty blue engine cover :(

BTW, I did mine on a bench grinder. I know that a grinder is overkill for plastic but it made a nice smooth radius and looks factory. I have since given up on the engine cover because the nitrous lines are in the way. :-\

I think im going to relocate it to the thread 2" to the left. I would need a longer screw. Not sure yet cuz i want everything yall have. Im getting greedy now I want NOS,Meth,the works :thumb:

Are you sure you're not in cahoots with O.J.?

bluedevil · « **Reply #16 on:** September 17, 2007, 06:28:04 PM »

Quote from: myscndfvrtride on September 17, 2007, 06:19:40 PM

Are you sure you're not in cahoots with O.J.?

O.J. needs another glove

and the other doesnt fit me.

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #17 on:** September 17, 2007, 06:52:07 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on September 17, 2007, 06:28:04 PM

Quote from: myscndfvrtride on September 17, 2007, 06:19:40 PM
Are you sure you're not in cahoots with O.J.?

O.J. needs another glove and the other doesnt fit me.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:08:49 AM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on September 17, 2007, 06:04:57 PM

Quote from: KY_BOB on September 17, 2007, 09:07:05 AM

Yea, I had alread thought about the fact that he's going to have to cut on that pretty blue engine cover :(

BTW, I did mine on a bench grinder. I know that a grinder is overkill for plastic but it made a nice smooth radius and looks factory. I have since given up on the engine cover because the nitrous lines are in the way. :-\

I think im going to relocate it to the thread 2" to the left. I would need a longer screw. Not sure yet cuz i want everything yall have. Im getting greedy now I want NOS,Meth,the works :thumb:

You haven't even got it running yet and your wanting more?

I like the way you think. You can scare myscndfvrtride at the next GTG

mEYEscndfvrtluv · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2007, 06:13:16 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on September 18, 2007, 10:08:49 AM

Quote from: BlueDevil on September 17, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
Quote from: KY_BOB on September 17, 2007, 09:07:05 AM

Yea, I had alread thought about the fact that he's going to have to cut on that pretty blue engine cover :(

BTW, I did mine on a bench grinder. I know that a grinder is overkill for plastic but it made a nice smooth radius and looks factory. I have since given up on the engine cover because the nitrous lines are in the way. :-\

I think im going to relocate it to the thread 2" to the left. I would need a longer screw. Not sure yet cuz i want everything yall have. Im getting greedy now I want NOS,Meth,the works :thumb:

You haven't even got it running yet and your wanting more?

I like the way you think. You can scare myscndfvrtride at the next GTG

I wasn't scared for me;it was for my AV you were power swerving towards in the parking lot,you might have spilled the shine!

justJR · « **Reply #20 on:** September 19, 2007, 07:59:36 PM »

After seeing many blown street Mustangs and tuners come through our shop I personally think the NOS sett-ups are over kill unless a guy is going to go to the track regularly or is going for a bad ass show boat with all of the tricks.
I have to drive my AV every day and can't afford for it to be down every couple of months for valve jobs from showing off in the juice.
The blower can be made streetable but nitrous is hard on a motor.
We have guy with a'05 Firebird on the bottle and he said he has the heads off a minimum of three times a year cause he can't resist the temptation to "GET 'ER DONE"!!!!

KY_BOB · « **Reply #21 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:34:41 AM »

Quote from: justJR on September 19, 2007, 07:59:36 PM

After seeing many blown street Mustangs and tuners come through our shop I personally think the NOS sett-ups are over kill unless a guy is going to go to the track regularly or is going for a bad ass show boat with all of the tricks.
I have to drive my AV every day and can't afford for it to be down every couple of months for valve jobs from showing off in the juice.
The blower can be made streetable but nitrous is hard on a motor.
We have guy with a'05 Firebird on the bottle and he said he has the heads off a minimum of three times a year cause he can't resist the temptation to "GET 'ER DONE"!!!!

I've had a couple of vehicles on the juice and have dealt with many more that belonged to friends. IMO, nitrous is no harder on a motor than a blower if used properly. If fact some would argue that it's easier because you aren't alway using it.

Now by properly, I mean in an amount that is safe for the setup and properly tuned. The safe amount varies greatly based on the engine and mods done to it. Does it have cast of forged pistons? What type of head gaskets? What is the timing set at? How much is the fuel pump (and injectors if it's a dry shot) capable of supporting?

IMO the biggest problems are caused because it's cheap enough for anyone to afford, easy enough to install that anyone can do it, and tempting to swap jets for more power than is safe. What I'm getting at is that a bunch of people use it without understanding it.

There are guys out there running F-bodies with a HPPIII or Predator and 100-150 shots of nitrous. The general rule of thumb is to retard the timing 2 degrees per every 50hp of nitrous used. Those tuners advance timing over stock!

I could go on and on about tuning nitrous and whats safe on a specific vehicle but that a good example.

I'll also be the first to say that I'm running mine on the ragged edge of what's safe but I got it there by data logging, adjusting and tuning, and then taking it to the next step. I've taken it as far as I feel safe. It would be quick and easy for me to swap 2 jets and make another 25-50hp. Would it stay together? Maybe but people doing that stuff is why engines fly apart.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #22 on:** September 20, 2007, 09:40:10 AM »

Ever hear the old saying about nitrous?

It's like a hot chick with a STD, you want to hit it but your scared.

MyBigToy · « **Reply #23 on:** September 20, 2007, 10:56:35 AM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on September 20, 2007, 09:34:41 AM

There are guys out there running F-bodies with a HPPIII or Predator and 100-150 shots of nitrous. The general rule of thumb is to retard the timing 2 degrees per every 50hp of nitrous used. Those tuners advance timing over stock!

I know someone who's running an F-body with a 150 shot and occasionally a 200 shot. He's still all stock on the motor and he's put upwards of 30K miles on it. He runs it hard all the time and takes it to the track frequently. I really can't believe it's still together.

I've been tempted to drop a 50 shot on mine but, like Bob, I don't want to push it on a daily driver. I think the NOS with a Magnacharger would be even worse on the drivetrain since they bring the high torque on-line really early.

KY_BOB · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2007, 02:51:11 PM »

Quote from: BadAV on September 20, 2007, 10:56:35 AM

I've been tempted to drop a 50 shot on mine but, like Bob, I don't want to push it on a daily driver. I think the NOS with a Magnacharger would be even worse on the drivetrain since they bring the high torque on-line really early.

I would agree with that if your spraying off the line. I'm running a window switch set at 3000rpm, and stalling my converter to 2500-2600 rpm. I don't get off the line far before it comes in but at least the stress from the launch is over before it hits. That's in 4x4.

If I'm in 4x2 and leave that hard, it leaves and spins the tires past 3000, the nitrous hits almost instantly, and blows the tires off till it hits 5950 and shifts. It may sound cool but it doesn't go anywhere fast. If I had a 4x2 or were going to race it in 4x2, I couldn't stall the converter near as hard.

Blue, sorry for

your supercharger install thread with all of this nitrous talk. There's plenty of time for that later

bluedevil · « **Reply #25 on:** September 20, 2007, 06:33:58 PM »

No biggie bob. Im learning all about it.

WB · « **Reply #26 on:** September 20, 2007, 06:37:56 PM »

UHHHH...isn't nitrous something only the hippies do in big colorful ballons at certain types of shows!!!!

:woot:

woof · « **Reply #27 on:** September 20, 2007, 11:39:52 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on September 20, 2007, 09:40:10 AM

Ever hear the old saying about nitrous?

It's like a hot chick with a STD, you want to hit it but your scared.

LMFAO

bluedevil · « **Reply #28 on:** September 22, 2007, 11:54:51 AM »

OK. I got the oil lines installation done and tuned. All i have to say is....WOW! Whata difference ;D Thank you all for your help on this long going install.

Drilling & tapping the oil pan was piece of cake but manouvering the cordless drill and my skinny hands where no fun in a tight area. Anywho,is done.

I was able to upload a stock tune,changed the VIN with HPTune and uploaded the Predator.

Ok. Whats next?

KY_BOB · « **Reply #29 on:** September 24, 2007, 09:25:03 AM »

Got to put many miles on it yet?

justJR · « **Reply #30 on:** September 25, 2007, 06:50:40 AM »

What do you mean "what's next?!?"
Drive it like you stole it!!!

bluedevil · « **Reply #31 on:** February 04, 2009, 09:33:17 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on September 24, 2007, 09:25:03 AM

Got to put many miles on it yet?

...and to think i never replied to this post in over a year. Many miles and hot-doggin' put on this baby form sure.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 18, 2009, 05:30:25 PM »

Hey Blue,

I was thinkin about gettin blown myself (

), and was curious if you upgraded your tranny,rear end or fuel system or anything like that? Common sense to me says that once you start puttin HP like that through that tranny and rear you will start breakin stuff. I am a pretty good tranny tech so I would do it myself but was curious cause if so I would do that first before I dropped a supercharger in there. I know it's an old post but had some questions. Any input would be greatly appriciated thanks bro!

MyBigToy · « **Reply #33 on:** August 18, 2009, 05:52:59 PM »

You should do a shift kit, hardened separator plate, and Corvette/billet servos. That will at least give the tranny a chance to survive for a while. I believe Mick's done the shift kit & servos.

I've done that plus the hardened separator plate, billet accumulator pistons, a Beast sunshell, new premium Alto clutch material and a wide 3-4 band. I probably should have gone ahead and added the GM 5-gear planetary over the stock 4L60E 4-gear while I had it open but didn't. The rear end can survive if you don't have oversize tires and only have up to about 150 hp added. The G80 in the Z71 is a weak point and several members have blown them. I've thought about adding a Detroit Tru-Trac but I guess I'll take my chances at this point. Most supercharger systems come with some type of booster pump or replacement fuel pump.

I hope you don't mind that I answered for Mick!

USMC0311 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:14:24 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 18, 2009, 05:52:59 PM

You should do a shift kit, hardened separator plate, and Corvette/billet servos. That will at least give the tranny a chance to survive for a while. I believe Mick's done the shift kit & servos.

I've done that plus the hardened separator plate, billet accumulator pistons, new premium Alto clutch material and a wide 3-4 band. The rear end can survive if you don't have oversize tires and only have up to about 150 hp added. The G80 in the Z71 is a weak point and several members have blown them. I've thought about adding a Detroit Tru-Trac but I guess I'll take my chances at this point. Most supercharger systems come with some type of booster pump or replacement fuel pump.

I hope you don't mind that I answered for Mick!

Ha Ha! Not at all, shoot I appriciate it. I was thinking a magnuson supercharger (have heard great things!), won't be for a while but am doin my homework now. The tranny upgrade is a breeze, it is the rear I am worried about. You said G80 in the Z71 is weak, i have a Z71 is that the RPO code for the rear or something? New to the avy world so excuse my newbie-ness ha ha! Would be nice to wake up that 5.3L, bet these trucks freakin rip with these superchargers! Thanks again for the info!

MyBigToy · « **Reply #35 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:20:30 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 18, 2009, 06:14:24 PM

You said G80 in the Z71 is weak, i have a Z71 is that the RPO code for the rear or something?

That's the GM corporate locking (limited slip) rear differential for our trucks.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:34:20 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 18, 2009, 06:20:30 PM

That's the GM corporate locking (limited slip) rear differential for our trucks.

O.K. cool ya never did any rear repair work so they are new to me. figured I would just drop the tranny do a stout rebuild on it, and I dunno what to do about the rear. Maybe eaton posi? Thanks for the info, good food for thought. Any thoughts on the magnuson charger?

MyBigToy · « **Reply #37 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:37:29 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 18, 2009, 06:34:20 PM

O.K. cool ya never did any rear repair work so they are new to me. figured I would just drop the tranny do a stout rebuild on it, and I dunno what to do about the rear. Maybe eaton posi? Thanks for the info, good food for thought. Any thoughts on the magnuson charger?

Any thoughts? Take a look at my signature and you'll see what I think!

I've got to run so I'll post more later.

bluedevil · « **Reply #38 on:** August 18, 2009, 07:04:11 PM »

I have not done anything to the rear end as i dont go by hot-doggin'. ...but i do,once in awhile when invited at the red light by some young punk on his ricer

My Cherries:

-Trailblazer SS
-T/A

The things ive done to besides the Vortech kit:

-Seperator Plate
-Vetter Servos
-Trailblazer Stall Converter
-Trans-Go Shift-Kit

The kit came with a Predator hand-held programmer with the custom tune in it and ready to go and bigger injectors. I think they're 42# or 60# injectors( i forgot which of the two).

Thats it,....i have no plans in the future for the rear end,unless it gives.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 18, 2009, 07:27:19 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 18, 2009, 06:37:29 PM

Any thoughts? Take a look at my signature and you'll see what I think! I've got to run so I'll post more later.

didn't even think to look at that! Ha Ha. Man the mod bug is bitten...HARD!!!

bluedevil · « **Reply #40 on:** August 18, 2009, 07:41:43 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 18, 2009, 07:27:19 PM

didn't even think to look at that! Ha Ha. Man the mod bug is bitten...HARD!!!

Expensive too but worth to play it.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 18, 2009, 07:50:31 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on August 18, 2009, 07:41:43 PM

Expensive too but worth to play it.

Ya tell me about it! After a magnacharger, tranny upgrades, long tubes, etc. price tag is insane! Gettin ready to sell my built 72 lemans so may have the funds sometime soon! Sad to see the one go but worth it when thinking of the future of the avy, and it can still be a daily driver! Now that is the best of both worlds! Know of anyone who sells the "Maggies" as a combo with long tubes or anything like that? I have seen some somewhere but can't member where. Thanks again guys!

bluedevil · « **Reply #42 on:** August 18, 2009, 07:59:36 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 18, 2009, 07:50:31 PM

Ya tell me about it! After a magnacharger, tranny upgrades, long tubes, etc. price tag is insane! Gettin ready to sell my built 72 lemans so may have the funds sometime soon! Sad to see the one go but worth it when thinking of the future of the avy, and it can still be a daily driver! Now that is the best of both worlds! Know of anyone who sells the "Maggies" as a combo with long tubes or anything like that? I have seen some somewhere but can't member where. Thanks again guys!

When i was shopping for my kit i found www.superchargersonline.com where cheaper.

They do have a selection of brands for your AV

MyBigToy · « **Reply #43 on:** August 18, 2009, 08:18:31 PM »

Here's a link to some recent posts that several of us made on forced induction. There's some decent reading there. The one thing I recommended was to take a look at performancetrucks.net. If you watch for a while you can pick up a low mileage Maggie MP unit cheap over there. If you're looking to save some money that's a good way to go; I'd look at the MP122HH unit if you can find one. It leaves you some room to grow when you inevitably decide you want more power.

http://www.chevyavalancheclub.com/index.php/topic,5406.msg56655.html#msg56655

USMC0311 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 18, 2009, 08:56:42 PM »

Alrighty then! Thanks guys I think I have enough to keep me busy for a while! Would love to see the truck at Bratfest BlueDevil (maybe even get a ride??

) Don't remember if your gonna make it BigToy, would be cooler if ya did though!. I will read what I can and talk to you at Bratfest! Thanks again Fellas for the input! Lots to chew on for a bit!

KY_BOB · « **Reply #45 on:** August 24, 2009, 02:39:41 PM »

Oh Lord, two Light Pewter Metallic AV's with Magnachargers. You guys will be ganging up on me and Blue.

bluedevil · « **Reply #46 on:** August 24, 2009, 03:55:08 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on August 24, 2009, 02:39:41 PM

Oh Lord, two Light Pewter Metallic AV's with Magnachargers. You guys will be ganging up on me and Blue.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 24, 2009, 05:15:42 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on August 24, 2009, 02:39:41 PM

Oh Lord, two Light Pewter Metallic AV's with Magnachargers. You guys will be ganging up on me and Blue.

Standby!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #48 on:** August 24, 2009, 05:27:00 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on August 24, 2009, 02:39:41 PM

Oh Lord, two Light Pewter Metallic AV's with Magnachargers. You guys will be ganging up on me and Blue.

You know damn well you're invited to Bratfest don't ya?

MyBigToy · « **Reply #49 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:11:32 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on August 24, 2009, 02:39:41 PM

Oh Lord, two Light Pewter Metallic AV's with Magnachargers. You guys will be ganging up on me and Blue.

Yeah but you cheat. You've got a cam and laughing gas and an exhaust cutout to make up for not having a Magnacharger!

We've got a real 1/4 mile track here in St. Louis.....we could find out who's got the fastest Av. Are you up for it? I'll even chip in for some of your gas money.

BTW - you're invited too, Blue. And Main One can come along also. We really should try to show up en-masse sometime and have some fun.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:21:19 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 24, 2009, 09:11:32 PM

Yeah but you cheat. You've got a cam and laughing gas and an exhaust cutout to make up for not having a Magnacharger! We've got a real 1/4 mile track here in St. Louis.....we could find out who's got the fastest Av. Are you up for it? I'll even chip in for some of your gas money.

BTW - you're invited too, Blue. And Main One can come along also. We really should try to show up en-masse sometime and have some fun.

Ahhh Cmon! Wait for me!!

bluedevil · « **Reply #51 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:25:19 PM »

Oh yes,...... Gateway Raceways? Im in but not ready yet. Been draggin my feet on the intercooler

MyBigToy · « **Reply #52 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:37:32 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on August 24, 2009, 09:25:19 PM

Oh yes,...... Gateway Raceways? Im in but not ready yet. Been draggin my feet on the intercooler

I've never installed my 3.2" pulley yet and still need to have someone help with really doing the VE and MAF tuning but I'm ready to do it anyway.

Main One · « **Reply #53 on:** August 25, 2009, 04:10:09 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 24, 2009, 09:11:32 PM

Yeah but you cheat. You've got a cam and laughing gas and an exhaust cutout to make up for not having a Magnacharger! We've got a real 1/4 mile track here in St. Louis.....we could find out who's got the fastest Av. Are you up for it? I'll even chip in for some of your gas money.

BTW - you're invited too, Blue. And Main One can come along also. We really should try to show up en-masse sometime and have some fun.

And to think that just last night on the way home after Minor One picked me up at the airport from my Australia trip that we were talking about Bratfest. She's already made plans for that weekend, but they don't involve me, and she's given me permission to make the trip. And reading this is just making me look forward to it all the more!

bluedevil · « **Reply #54 on:** August 25, 2009, 04:38:39 PM »

Quote from: Main One on August 25, 2009, 04:10:09 PM

And to think that just last night on the way home after Minor One picked me up at the airport from my Australia trip that we were talking about Bratfest. She's already made plans for that weekend, but they don't involve me, and she's given me permission to make the trip. And reading this is just making me look forward to it all the more!

Excellent! Ill be bringing my hptuners

Main One · « **Reply #55 on:** August 25, 2009, 05:48:55 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on August 25, 2009, 04:38:39 PM

Excellent! Ill be bringing my hptuners

I'll bring my laptop, and hopefully also my new HPTuners interface. I had the older serial interface which they aren't going to support after September, so after I left for Australia the wife sent it to them, along with $199, for the upgrade to their new unit. Got an email yesterday with installation instructions for installing software for the new unit - I'm hoping they sent the email when they shipped my new hardware. I'm sure we can have some good HPTuners discussions.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 25, 2009, 05:55:49 PM »

Man you all are making me want to supercharge the avy NOW! I want to play!!

If it wasn't so damn expensive I would do it like yesterday, but I am saving up now for the Maggie! Saw you guys are bringin your HP tuners to Bratfest

.... Anyone wanna help me perk up the avy?? I got ice cold beers

Main One · « **Reply #57 on:** August 25, 2009, 06:06:35 PM »

Well, I haven't made a supercharger investment yet myself, so you aren't the only one with desires beyond current checkbook capability. I have an HPTuners license for all 03's, but not any other year. I should warn you though that the last time I tried to tune someone else's truck (Murman's), we were stuck on the side of the road for a couple of hours before we figured out the source of our predicament and got our hands on a good serial interface cable.

Fortunately, my new interface will not require a serial cable.

bluedevil · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2009, 06:26:16 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 25, 2009, 05:55:49 PM

Man you all are making me want to supercharge the avy NOW! I want to play!! If it wasn't so damn expensive I would do it like yesterday, but I am saving up now for the Maggie! Saw you guys are bringin your HP tuners to Bratfest .... Anyone wanna help me perk up the avy?? I got ice cold beers

The problem is,

all hand held programmers can only do 1 vehicle. If you want to do another vehicle (same year),you would have to revert to stock on the current vehicle in order to do the other.

HPTuners can do several vehicles but you have to purchase such credits

USMC0311 · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2009, 06:26:45 PM »

Quote from: Main One on August 25, 2009, 06:06:35 PM

Well, I haven't made a supercharger investment yet myself, so you aren't the only one with desires beyond current checkbook capability. I have an HPTuners license for all 03's, but not any other year. I should warn you though that the last time I tried to tune someone else's truck (Murman's), we were stuck on the side of the road for a couple of hours before we figured out the source of our predicament and got our hands on a good serial interface cable. Fortunately, my new interface will not require a serial cable.

Ah too bad, mine is an 04! I know tuning can be tricky, but usually worth the time! I think I may have found a decent price on a Magnacharger MP122, pretty sure that kit would work for my truck, but still have to check. If so I just might get it this week!

So we will see

USMC0311 · « **Reply #60 on:** August 25, 2009, 06:28:05 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on August 25, 2009, 06:26:16 PM

The problem is,

all hand held programmers can only do 1 vehicle. If you want to do another vehicle (same year),you would have to revert to stock on the current vehicle in order to do the other.

HPTuners can do several vehicles but you have to purchase such credits

BOOOO!

That sucks! Well guess they gotta make their money too. Oh well. Appriciate it though

bluedevil · « **Reply #61 on:** August 25, 2009, 06:29:20 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 25, 2009, 06:26:45 PM

Ah too bad, mine is an 04! I know tuning can be tricky, but usually worth the time! I think I may have found a decent price on a Magnacharger MP122, pretty sure that kit would work for my truck, but still have to check. If so I just might get it this week! So we will see

Always keep communication via emails or phone to make sure it fits your application. It a lot of money ya know?

USMC0311 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 25, 2009, 06:33:18 PM »

Quote from: BlueDevil on August 25, 2009, 06:29:20 PM

Always keep communication via emails or phone to make sure it fits your application. It a lot of money ya know?

Ya for sure! I don't need another "incident"!

I tend to get ahead of myself. I might be able to snag the whole kit for $3500, but need to be absolutely sure it fits the avy!

oHIobellboy · « **Reply #63 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:37:12 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 25, 2009, 06:26:45 PM

Ah too bad, mine is an 04! I know tuning can be tricky, but usually worth the time! I think I may have found a decent price on a Magnacharger MP122, pretty sure that kit would work for my truck, but still have to check. If so I just might get it this week! So we will see

Like BD said. check it out thoroughly. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER buy something until you've double and triple checked it! Trust me, I learned the hard way.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #64 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:03:05 PM »

Ya I hear ya on that one! It does fit though I checked. All the the 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 engines with the "cathedral port" heads use the same supercharger. So would work, and this is the kit, so includes charger, fuel injectors, etc. so for $3500 I think it is a good deal.

MyBigToy · « **Reply #65 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:01:30 PM »

Quote from: USMC0311 on August 25, 2009, 08:03:05 PM

Ya I hear ya on that one! It does fit though I checked. All the the 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 engines with the "cathedral port" heads use the same supercharger. So would work, and this is the kit, so includes charger, fuel injectors, etc. so for $3500 I think it is a good deal.

One other thing I didn't mention in the PM - ask if it has the programmer with it. If not, you'll have to spend another $450-$500 to get the programming set up. Seeing as how he's sent it back to the manufacturer for a checkup and repackaging I'm guessing it will have it.

USMC0311 · « **Reply #66 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:04:18 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 25, 2009, 10:01:30 PM

One other thing I didn't mention in the PM - ask if it has the programmer with it. If not, you'll have to spend another $450-$500 to get the programming set up. Seeing as how he's sent it back to the manufacturer for a checkup and repackaging I'm guessing it will have it.

Ya it does! Thanks for the heads up though I had to ask! Thanks again for all ur feedback brother

KY_BOB · « **Reply #67 on:** August 26, 2009, 02:49:50 PM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 24, 2009, 09:11:32 PM

Yeah but you cheat. You've got a cam and laughing gas and an exhaust cutout to make up for not having a Magnacharger! We've got a real 1/4 mile track here in St. Louis.....we could find out who's got the fastest Av. Are you up for it? I'll even chip in for some of your gas money.

BTW - you're invited too, Blue. And Main One can come along also. We really should try to show up en-masse sometime and have some fun.

Anything that makes power isn't cheating.

I'll have to pass on Bratfest. I have other plans but thanks for thinking of me.

MyBigToy · « **Reply #68 on:** August 26, 2009, 08:44:06 PM »

Quote from: KY_BOB on August 26, 2009, 02:49:50 PM

Anything that makes power isn't cheating.

I'll have to pass on Bratfest. I have other plans but thanks for thinking of me.

I assume it involves bikinis and beer?

Main One · « **Reply #69 on:** August 30, 2009, 11:03:05 AM »

Quote from: MyBigToy on August 26, 2009, 08:44:06 PM

I assume it involves bikinis and beer?

Maybe we should move Bratfest next year to western Kentucky!